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Old 12-23-2008, 11:38 AM
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"China's answer to Blu-ray not inciting fear of another format war

While several China-based large vendors/makers of consumer electronics plan to launch devices supporting CBHD (China Blue High-definition Disc), China's home grown blue-laser optical disc technology slated to compete with Blu-ray Disc (BD), no Taiwan-based makers of optical disc drives have participated in CBHD development or promotion.

Industry sources in Taiwan indicated that Taiwan makers are not optimistic about the market potential of the standard, despite support from China-based hardware players such as Shinco, TCL and Tsinghua Tongfang.

This is not China's first foray into developing optical disc technology. China also developed red-laser EVD (Enhanced Versatile Disc) technology, which was slated to compete against the DVD standard. EVD ultimately failed due to lack of market support, the sources pointed out. Taiwan also attempted to develop an alternative DVD format called FVD (Forward Versatile Disc), which reportedly was able to compete with Toshiba's HD DVD technology in terms of storage capacity. However, the standard failed to win over support from makers and customers alike, and Taiwan-based makers are now unwilling to support CBHD, the sources explained.

Samsung Electronics and Sony are marketing US$199 BD players in the North American market, while CBHD players will sell for about 3,000 yuan (US$438), the sources pointed out. In addition to an unattractive price, CBHD players offer little international content support, as compared to support from Hollywood movie studios for BD.

Taiwan-based hardware makers prefer to bet all of their R&D resources on BD, the sources added."
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081222PD214.html

So that's it folks. HD DVD and everything associated with HD DVD, is officially a limp carcass, a corpse with grayed-over eyes. There will be no resurgence in China or anywhere else.

HD DVD: The look and sound of DEAD!
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:53 AM
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Certainly, without studio support, the format isn't going anywhere.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:05 PM
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"China's answer to Blu-ray not inciting fear of another format war
This actually is interesting...

From August 29th Digitimes...

"Hollywood movie studios not supporting China-developed CBHD, say Taiwan optical disc makers".

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While many leading optical disc makers and vendors of optical disc players in China have been actively promoting the CBHD (China Blue High-definition Disc) format, the prospects for CBHD are not optimistic because vendors are finding it difficult to win support from the main movie studios in Hollywood, according to Taiwan-based optical disc makers.
From July 28, 2008 Digitimes...

"China to launch CBHD high-definition disc format but Taiwan makers not optimistic about its prospects"

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However, Taiwan-based drive makers generally believe CBHD will find it difficult to compete with Blu-ray Disc (BD) in the China market, according to industry sources.

Methinks Taiwanese ODD manufacturers doth protest WAY too loudly about something that is "not there".

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So that's it folks. HD DVD and everything associated with HD DVD, is officially a limp carcass, a corpse with grayed-over eyes. There will be no resurgence in China or anywhere else.

HD DVD: The look and sound of DEAD!
Fascinating...
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Mike are you even trying to make any sense anymore? I have no clue what you are getting at.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:14 PM
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China readies Blu-Ray competitor

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07...na_cbhd_ready/

Sony to sell Blu-ray titles in China

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...be1b7cc0a044a9
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Thank you for including those ancient articles Lee, though I don't understand their significance.
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Bottom line:

CBHD was never going to have a chance. It was a completely pointless project from the get-go. It had even less of a chance than HD DVD.

Yet SOME on here not only believed it could succeed in China, but actually thought it could be the launch point for HD DVD to return to the rest of the world!

Talk about self-delusion!

I wonder what it must be like to be wrong 100% of the time?
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China readies Blu-Ray competitor

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07...na_cbhd_ready/

Sony to sell Blu-ray titles in China

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...be1b7cc0a044a9
Sony is selling Blu-ray in China, they are not licensing their films to the Chinese format makers, so I fail to see the significance of your links.
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Another anti-Blu pipe dream shattered....

The anti-Blu's are really having a bad month.. And a bad year...
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:59 PM
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Sony is selling Blu-ray in China, they are not licensing their films to the Chinese format makers, so I fail to see the significance of your links.
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The advantage of CBHD is manufacturing price. Apparently, a production line of DVDs can be fitted to make CBHD discs for a mere $800,000, compared to the $3m needed to do the same for Blu-Ray.
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The release of the discs, which cost as much as 30 times the average price of a standard-definition pirated DVD, will coincide with Sony's introduction of its Blu-ray disc player model BDP-S350 here. Although swept from China's streets during the Olympics, pirated DVDs are again widely available.
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In competing efforts to tap China's home entertainment demand, this month Warner Bros., which founded a joint venture home entertainment business in China in 2005, announced it would release its titles via a VOD Web site.
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