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Old 11-25-2008, 09:05 PM
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There seems to be a perception out there that only people with HDTVs would be interested in Blu-ray Disc players, or that the players wonít work without the HDTV.

It isnít so.

Just for kicks the other day, I hooked up a Panasonic BD player to a standard-def TV, and it worked just fine. The picture looked amazing, as if the machine was basically a high-end DVD player.

Obviously this isnít the intent of the technology, but itís a marketing avenue the studios havenít really taken advantage of.

If consumers arenít quite ready to spend the money for an HDTV quite yet, the Blu-ray player is less of a commitment. It lets them use Blu-ray movies right now, and some Blu-ray-exclusive extras, without having to worry about buying the same titles again in the high-def format later. And knowing the potential picture quality Blu-ray offers might spur them to upgrade to the HDTV sooner than they anticipated.

Thatís why a Blu-ray player would make a great gift this holiday season, since it doesnít matter if the recipient has an HDTV or not.

It supports the format, supports the industry and supports the economy. What could be better than that?
Now that is comedy gold right there.

"The picture looked amazing, as if the machine was basically a high-end DVD player" - Err, maybe that's the reason people aren't buying blu-ray?

"It supports the format, supports the industry and supports the economy" - So you should buy a blu-ray player for someone who doesn't need one, so they will pay extra for blu-ray discs to play on it, even though they look the same as cheap DVD on their SDTV?

And you should do this to support Sony, Panasonic, Dell, Fox and Disney?

Hats off to Home Media Magazine. They have just broken though 10 on the Unintentional Comedy Scale, and are well on their way to an 11.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:08 PM
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They have just broken though 10 on the Unintentional Comedy Scale, and are well on their way to an 11.
Well, you would know, since you are the King of Unintentional Comedy on the boards!
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:11 PM
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Blogs are always unintentionally funny especially when they give out the wrong info, or give out subjective opinions... remember that the next time you link your other ones, mike

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Old 11-25-2008, 09:28 PM
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Well, you would know, since you are the King of Unintentional Comedy on the boards!
Blu-uuuuurrrrn
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:58 PM
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Well if you need a replacement DVD player and you have only a regular standard def TV, theres really getting to be no reason to buy a regular DVD player if you can get a Blu-ray player for $128 or less.

The picture from either DVD or Blu-ray downscaled to 480i60 is superior to broadcast standard def TV, even if its downscaled . Just like OTA digital HD looks better on most standard def TVs even when its downscaled by a CECB $40 coupon DTV convertor.

Plus if you bought a Blu-ray player now, instead of a DVD player, it won't be obsolete when you hook it up to a new HDTV you may buy in the future.

Pretty much by this time next year, retailers will phase out most low margin DVD players when they can stock higher margin $99 or less Blu-ray players anyway.

Plus any Blu-ray movie purchases can be played on that new hardware, even if its an older TV until a new HDTV is purchased anyway. If you have a BLu-ray player, why buy it on DVD?

Don't you realize a gift Blu-ray player can be used on an existing standard def TV?
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:04 PM
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There seems to be a perception out there that only people with HDTVs would be interested in Blu-ray Disc players, or that the players wonít work without the HDTV.

It isnít so.

Just for kicks the other day, I hooked up a Panasonic BD player to a standard-def TV, and it worked just fine. The picture looked amazing, as if the machine was basically a high-end DVD player.

Obviously this isnít the intent of the technology, but itís a marketing avenue the studios havenít really taken advantage of.

If consumers arenít quite ready to spend the money for an HDTV quite yet, the Blu-ray player is less of a commitment. It lets them use Blu-ray movies right now, and some Blu-ray-exclusive extras, without having to worry about buying the same titles again in the high-def format later. And knowing the potential picture quality Blu-ray offers might spur them to upgrade to the HDTV sooner than they anticipated.

Thatís why a Blu-ray player would make a great gift this holiday season, since it doesnít matter if the recipient has an HDTV or not.

It supports the format, supports the industry and supports the economy. What could be better than that?
Nothing there that is not true.

If a Blu-ray player is given as a gift, it still can be used as a high end upconverting DVD player until a HDTV is purchased, along with Blu-ray interactivity. It also allows Blu-ray movies to be used right now and allows the building of a Blu-ray library for later usage.

The point of the commentary was that a Blu-ray player can be a great gift for people without a new HDTV yet and that retailers and manufacturers have not shared that information with the public.
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:28 PM
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Nothing there that is not true.

If a Blu-ray player is given as a gift, it still can be used as a high end upconverting DVD player until a HDTV is purchased, along with Blu-ray interactivity.
Kosty, a blu-ray player cannot upconvert anything to an SDTV - It plays at 480i at a 4:3 ratio, wigh big black bars on the top and bottom. Just like a DVD player from 1999. No better.

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It also allows Blu-ray movies to be used right now and allows the building of a Blu-ray library for later usage.
So you advocate people who don't yet care enough about hi-def to own an HDTV spending $30 on blu-ray movies that they won't benefit from. At the same time that blu-ray discs are not selling to people who already purchased a blu-ray player (PS3) AND who own an HDTV.

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The point of the commentary was that a Blu-ray player can be a great gift for people without a new HDTV yet and that retailers and manufacturers have not shared that information with the public.
...So, I'm guessing you must have bought blu-ray players as gifts for SDTV owners...

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Old 11-25-2008, 10:40 PM
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I think it's a great idea for people interested in Blu-ray, with out the proper technology to support it fully just yet. Otherwise it seems like a waste of time still, I can see people enjoying the pop-up menus, etc while they wait though.
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:43 PM
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I have to agree with most of the sentiments in this thread. Buying a BD player for a SDTV is like buying a .38 round for a 357. Sure it will fire the .38, but it just won't have the power of a 357 magnum round.
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:34 AM
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even if the Blu-ray player is treated just as a DVD player, it'll open a door for the consumer once they start buying Blu-ray titles/HDTV that they can take advantage of it, but if they bought the Blu-ray titles after receiving a Blu-ray player, they'd be able to watch it on their SDTV for now and when they get an HDTV they'll be amazed by the detail and sharpness Blu-ray offers.

everyone who cares about HDM, should be looking forward to general adoption of Blu-ray, rather then snickering at anything and everything that comes out. I personally feel everyone who is NOW still cheering for Blu-ray's demise has no real interest in HDM, doesn't care about quality and I question if they ever did.

as I understand it this is a forum for home theatre and HD enthusiasts so I'll ask the question if someone isn't interested in the best that home theatre or HD has to offer, why are they here?
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