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Old 02-10-2008, 11:46 PM
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Warner was paid big to go blu-ray exclusive in the hopes of "winning" the war before the 2.0 spec hits, because they know that there will be a whole boatload of consumer suits over machines that cannot be updated. I know I am "2.0 safe" with my PS3, but I suspect that the average purchaser of a stand alone player had and still has no clue. It isnt about being able to play the main feature film... we all know that Sony isnt dumb enough to kill that compatibility. But they cant, and from the looks of it, wont, let the war go on until 2.0 spec hits the shops.

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I was a Blu-Ray fanboy from before there were any actual shipping units on either side. In time I've come to realize that Sony made a mash up of the blu-ray issue just to get to market a few months sooner. As for the technical end, I've seen nothing from the blu-ray camp (I own Sunshine, Casino Royale, Life of Brian, Pan's Labyrinth, Ratatouille, and Kingdom of Heaven) that makes me feel that it is any better than HD-DVD, in spite of the so called "superiority".
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:56 PM
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I don't see a "boatload of consumer suits" coming because of profiles. Just because I buy one TV and later a newer model comes out with more features doesn't give me a right to sue over it.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:59 PM
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That's bunk and you know it. Consumers have come to rely on "standards" to make decisions, and for the uninformed or easily misled, this is a huge lie. It is not a car. It is not "added features". It is a reworking of a benchmark that a consumer should be able to count on. Remember when a CD manufacturer tried to "protect" their CDs? they lost the suits brought over that. This is going to be a huge poop sandwich and all the CE companies (except Toshiba) are going to have to take a big bite.

Will it change the almost inevitable outcome? Nope. But it will leave a really sour taste in more than one mouth. And in the end, more people will come to dislike Sony over it.
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Unlikely. They probably won't even use the term Profile 2. Some machines will likely have 'Internet Capable' stickers on the box, others won't. End of story.
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This is going to be a huge poop sandwich and all the CE companies (except Toshiba) are going to have to take a big bite.
Have you seen some false advertisement?

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Old 02-11-2008, 12:22 AM
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Nonsense. Even if these mythical "consumer suits" you predict did come to pass, the entire class could be settled for less than $10 million. It's not even something worth breaking a sweat over.
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Have you seen some false advertisement?

I'd definitely buy that burger....dangit Starry, now I'm thinking about food
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:37 AM
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Unlikely. They probably won't even use the term Profile 2. Some machines will likely have 'Internet Capable' stickers on the box, others won't. End of story.
So there is no suit already filed against Samsung for problems with a player that can be fixed via firmware but hasnt been?

Lawyers who specialize in class action suits are probably already preparing suits to be filed when the first 2.0 spec discs hit the market, especially if some early 1.0 and 1.1 players are broken for any length of time.

Damn... to be honest I hope it doesnt happen, because it's nothing but bad for those of us who love movies.. no matter what colour they are.

Sony and Toshiba agreed on the DVD spec in the 90's. There is no reason for the format war we are having now. Toshiba even made overtures to Sony about working on a single spec. But in the end, it was the hubris of the executives at Sony that brought this format war. And its been nothing but trouble for all of us... no?
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That's bunk and you know it. Consumers have come to rely on "standards" to make decisions, and for the uninformed or easily misled, this is a huge lie. It is not a car. It is not "added features". It is a reworking of a benchmark that a consumer should be able to count on. Remember when a CD manufacturer tried to "protect" their CDs? they lost the suits brought over that. This is going to be a huge poop sandwich and all the CE companies (except Toshiba) are going to have to take a big bite.

Will it change the almost inevitable outcome? Nope. But it will leave a really sour taste in more than one mouth. And in the end, more people will come to dislike Sony over it.
ok the reworking of CD's made them unable to play back on some CD players.

in other words people were not getting the product as advertised, their current players could not do what they were advertised to do.

BD profiles are different, its like suing cause your car does not have cruise control and other models comming out the next year do.

you dont get to sue cause you were not given more than you paid for.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:42 AM
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The Samsung suit has nothing to do with profiles. It is all about defective players that Samsung is not providing firmware to correct. The profiles do not make the player "broken". Were the first DVD players able to read multi layered discs? If not, was that suit worthy?
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