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Old 01-14-2008, 12:47 PM
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Thumbs down Toshiba: upconverting is nearly as good as HD DVD!

From their latest press release:

Major new marketing initiatives are designed to spotlight "the benefits HD DVD brings to a consumer's current DVD library by
upconverting standard DVDs via the HDMI output to near high definition picture quality."

"HD DVD players instantly make a movie lover's existing DVD library look better than ever."

HD DVD players "enhance the picture quality to near high definition on legacy DVD titles by all studios."

Seriously, WTF. I've had an upconverting player for 3+ years now. Don't insult my intelligence.

This feels like a visit to the optometrist:


Can you read the signs on the store behind the bench?


And now?

No upconversion is going to make those signs readable.

(Thanks to Xylon over at avsforum for the captures)...

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Old 01-14-2008, 12:52 PM
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Is that first image upconverted to 1080P or is it SD 480p? It looks SD to me, especially given the extreme loss of detail.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:54 PM
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Nice post Grubert. I think Toshiba is just grasping at straws at this point and is trying anything to keep their share of the HDM market.
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Every upscaling DVD player on the market describes themselves as "converting images to near high-definition quality." This isn't some evil marketing tactic thought up by Toshiba.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:56 PM
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It's a marketing tactic to reassure people that they won't have to toss out their current DVD collection. Believe it or not, a lot of people don't know you can play regular DVDs on a HDM player -- letting them know they can not only play them, but have them upconverted to make them look better, is definitely a message that needs to get out there. Once people see a title in true HD though, chances are upconverting won't be enough for them.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:57 PM
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Is that first image upconverted to 1080P or is it SD 480p? It looks SD to me, especially given the extreme loss of detail.
DVD screenshots were taken from a MPC using DScaler upscaled to 1920x1080 resized using Photoshop Bicubic filter saved as PNG
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Super upconversion does its magic.
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Super upconversion does its magic.
Says the man who couldn't tell the difference between a top-tier HDM title and DVD to begin with: http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=36278
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Nice post Grubert. I think Toshiba is just grasping at straws at this point and is trying anything to keep their share of the HDM market.
Ack,

I normally agree with you, but honestly, this is Toshiba's grasping @ straws to hold on to their SD DVD market.

That's all this has been about from day one. Holding on to SD DVD royalties while throwing a product out there that pretends to be about HD, but in actuality is about preserving their SD DVD sales.
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Says the man who couldn't tell the difference between a top-tier HDM title and DVD to begin with: http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=36278
That's your average J6P speaking.
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