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Old 02-13-2007, 02:21 PM
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I'm stealing this from Doby, it's probably one of the most detailed breakout of two video formats I've seen. It includes Player Issues for both formats which i'll quote here. It looks like they built the feature for each format, then tested it on different players and noted even little differences.

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Are there any known player/disc issues with Beside You In Time?

Due to the nature of emerging technology, there are a number of very minor player and disc issues with Beside You In Time:

- On Samsung Blu-ray players, there is currently a slight video gap (goes to black for a split second) on the intro video leading to the main menu. This is due to a bug in the player firmware, and will likely eventually be fixed by a future firmware update from Samsung.

- If you are listening to Dolby TrueHD on the Blu-ray release, you may notice a slight audio gap where the multi-angle content begins and ends (about 1/30 of a second). This occurs only twice on the disc and occurs only between songs. The reason for this is a current limitation on how uncompressed audio is handled during multi-angle content.

- On the PS3 and possibly certain other Blu-ray players, the button on the pop-up menu to switch angles during the multi-angle sequence does not work. This is due to a spec issue which affects certain players, notably the PS3. You should use your player's angle button to switch between angles.

- On both HD formats, the pop-up menu is inaccessible during the music videos and rehearsal videos. This is because these videos force the player into standard resolution mode with which the pop-up is incompatible.

- Toshiba HD DVD players sometimes have a difficult time with the menu animations, causing slow or glitchy playback. This will likely improve with future firmware updates from Toshiba.

- Currently InterVideo WinDVD crashes when playing the HD DVD version of the disc. This may be fixed with future versions of the player, but for now Beside You In Time HD DVD is incompatible with InterVideo WinDVD.

- On the standard DVD there is a layer break between the tracks "Beside You In Time" and "With Teeth." On some players you may experience a momentary audio gap and picture freeze.
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There are a few things they have incorrect, like setting the PS3 to "Bitrate" to access the TrueHD track on HDMI, which you will not want to do.
You need it set to "PCM" in order to have the PS3 do the decoding and output as PCM.
For optical, you want it set to bitrate.

It also points out that the blu-ray will have better interactivity, which is quite surprising.

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On the HD DVD, real-time angle switching was not possible, so the alternate angle is included as a standalone "easter egg." To access it, highlight "Right Where It Belongs" on the pop-up menu, then press the up-left (45 degree) directional button on your remote control. The button to play the alternate angle will appear - press enter to watch.

On the Blu-ray, an option to toggle the angles will appear on the pop-up menu during the three songs. Most Blu-ray players will display a multi-angle icon when multi-angle content is playing. On many players you can turn this icon off in the set-up menu.
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There are a few things they have incorrect, like setting the PS3 to "Bitrate" to access the TrueHD track on HDMI, which you will not want to do.
You need it set to "PCM" in order to have the PS3 do the decoding and output as PCM.
For optical, you want it set to bitrate.
I would interpret "Access the TrueHD Track" as have the TrueHD track outputted, not as being converted to PCM. Due to the lack of TrueHD Decoders, most people should set to PCM to get the lossless audio. Just the way I read that though.
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It also points out that the blu-ray will have better interactivity, which is quite surprising.
Blu-ray beats HD DVD in multi-angle right now, don't know if it's a known or "accepted" thing with HD or if they're working on developing that. The PS3 won't have that menu though, you need to use the angle button.
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I would interpret "Access the TrueHD Track" as have the TrueHD track outputted, not as being converted to PCM. Due to the lack of TrueHD Decoders, most people should set to PCM to get the lossless audio. Just the way I read that though.
Actually it looks like they are only referring to the optical out.
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NOTE: When setting up your player to pass a Dolby Digital stream to your A/V receiver, make sure you set the digital output of your player to "Bitstream." If it is set to PCM, you will get a down-sampled stereo version of the surround track which your receiver may then attempt to play back as Dolby ProLogic surround. The audio experience will be compromised and will not sound good. You can tell if you have your player set up correctly by using the Audio Optimization menu on the disc to ensure you are hearing the discrete mix.
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