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Old 02-08-2007, 03:25 AM
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Thatís it. Blu-Ray will win.
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Recently, C|Netís David Carnoy drew a lot of flak for predicting that Blu-Ray will beat the pants out of HD-DVD and that HD-DVD will have to shut down by yearís end. After drawing lots of fire, he just posted the defense for his claims here.

But thereís something else thatís in the air. Something that David and all the format-war-watchers should keep an eye on, and which may be a more reliable harbinger of things to come. Namely, the stuff that are actually selling in the high-def bestsellers lists of both formats.

And if you take a peek at the current bestsellers, youíll see one huge difference that may mean the eventual win of Blu-Ray.

First, hereís the current top ten sellers for HD-DVD.

Top 10 HD-DVD Bestsellers (c/o DVD Empire.com)

Eagles: Farewell 1 Tour
Hollywoodland
Half Baked
Chicago/ Earth, Wind and Fire: Live
Toto: Live in Amsterdam
HDScape Exotic Saltwater Aquarium
James Taylor: Musicares Person of the Year Tribute
Pat Methany Group: The Way Up
Heart: Alive in Seattle
Casino
Now take a look at the top ten for Blu-Ray disc sales:

Top 10 Blu-Ray Bestsellers (c/o DVD Empire.com)

The Guardian
Flyboys
Open Season
Crank
Alien vs. Predator
Superman Returns
Saw III
Legends of Jazz with Ramsey Lewis
Pearl Harbor
The Last Samurai
Do you see the difference? Holy Hannibals, the HD-DVD bestsellers are a bunch of musicfests for the forty-something-and-up geriatric crowd. Where are the good movies? The only recent movie here is HollywoodlandÖ and it was a box office dud. In fact, just recently this list also included Poseidon. Argh. You can detect a sense of foreboding in the air when its number nine topseller is an act that seems happy to still be alive.

By contrast, Blu-Ray bestsellers seem to point to a younger, more mainstream crowd. Heck, Ashton Kutcher is number one here. And then thereís the visually dazzling Flyboys, the over-the-top Crank, and man, the lovely The Last Samurai. Even Superman Returns is here (no matter what you think of it, itís still a visual treat that youíd want to see in a home theater). This is a healthy list, with a number of recent box-office winners. This is a list that says ďWeíre young, we love movies, and we love them newfangled machines! Bring Ďem on!Ē

In short, if the best discs that HD-DVD can come up with include a saltwater aquarium, then the format is doomed. Sorry to say this, but the Sony consortium has the winners right now. More important, they have the younger, and therefore potentially larger, market.

And when stuff like Spider-Man and Star Wars (and Casino Royale, which pal David is waiting for with bated breath) come out, then, in the words of Hudson in Aliens (another movie that will only come out on Blu-Ray), itís ďGame over man. Game over!Ē

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Well spotted. That is some wacky Top 10 best seller list DVD Empire has going there. I'd say its probably down to the HD-DVD hit movie starvation more than anything else.
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Well spotted. That is some wacky Top 10 best seller list DVD Empire has going there. I'd say its probably down to the HD-DVD hit movie starvation more than anything else.
While I agree with the conclusion about Blu-ray likely winning, I find the list for HD DVD a bit odd. Does it map to the top-ten list for Amazon? I don't recall any of those being so heavily loaded towards music.

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Wow I just went too DVD empire to see if it was true. For the most part it is.

http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_bes...99365266216990
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While I agree with the conclusion about Blu-ray likely winning, I find the list for HD DVD a bit odd. Does it map to the top-ten list for Amazon? I don't recall any of those being so heavily loaded towards music.

Christy
Amazon is a bit different, but they do have ' Live: Beside You in Time (Ws Ac3 Dol Dts)' in the top 10.

http://www.hdgamedb.com/amazon/versus.aspx

However it seems Amazon doesn't carry as many music HD-DVDs as DVD Empire. (Eagles: Farewell 1 Tour - Live From Melbourne for example)
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Even on amazon, one of their top 5 titles is a test pattern.

They are being starved by the studios. Its great
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Even on amazon, one of their top 5 titles is a test pattern.

They are being starved by the studios. Its great
Hey don't h8 Digital Video Essentials. :-) Just convince 'em to put it out on Blu-ray too.

Thanks for reminding me to order a copy.

Christy
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I hate to break it to ya'll but I'm in my 20's and am planning on getting the Chicago/EWF for the R&B included. If there was a better variety like BoA, Aaliyah or early Brandy I'd buy that as well. M-Flo perhaps too.
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Even on amazon, one of their top 5 titles is a test pattern.

They are being starved by the studios. Its great
And yet they think that isn't bad news, it's just a minor blip in the ultimate triumph of the format.

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Even on amazon, one of their top 5 titles is a test pattern.

They are being starved by the studios. Its great
Yeah, man...look at that... crazy HD DVD "test pattern" disc is outselling all but the top 5 Blu-rays!



And yes, I'm 23 and my copy of "Chicago / Earth Wind & Fire" came in a couple days ago from Amazon. Sue me for liking good music
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