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Old 11-02-2007, 10:46 PM
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Probably similar to what's going on at most stores these days. No way in hell the PS3 can survive this onslaught.

P.S. How do you think the endless bluray manufactures are feeling right now seeing there obsolete players collecting dust, while HD-DVD sells all these players.
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I think that has been the ongoing point lately. The PS3 got BD off to a really kick ass start by selling 4.5million units, all of which play BD and do the best job possible of playing BD. That's a great thing; but I think the big picture is what percentage of owners are purchasing BD movies. I know that some are, that's obvious by the 2:1 BD sales lead. However, what percentage of Toshiba owners are? I would say very high 90% area, and similar with owners of the 360 addon. This is because the Toshiba units are HD players, period, and the addon owners buy the addon to play HD movies. What Warner is looking at is what will be happening as far as software sales after this "fire sale" by Toshiba. I did not buy a player today, I have had one for months (I bought because of the $250 price, and Heroes), but I did buy 3 movies today. BD can and will survive this week. They have the muscle. This is not about trying to "kill BD", it's about being able to survive BD's lead and catch up and prove to Warner that increased HD player sales will equate to increased HD media sales. I really don't see BD dying, I just hope HD survives because I prefer BD's consumer friendly nature and more approachable price point.

PS wouldn't this belong in the smackdown area?
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:58 PM
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Hey OP, how about you do some reading before you start posting. This belongs in the Smackdown area, not the general format discussion
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Moving to Smackdown.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:44 AM
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Probably similar to what's going on at most stores these days. No way in hell the PS3 can survive this onslaught.

P.S. How do you think the endless bluray manufactures are feeling right now seeing there obsolete players collecting dust, while HD-DVD sells all these players.
Only a simpleton would use this "ranking" and conclude Blu-ray is doomed.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:54 AM
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Its been like that for months now on Amazon. The only noticeable difference is the up tick in A2 numbers because of Toshiba dumping. Amazon is just one retailer and you guys keep leaving out the PS3 when its convenient to do so.
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How do you think the endless bluray manufactures are feeling right now seeing there obsolete players collecting dust, while HD-DVD sells all these players.
They're probably thinking...better to sell a few of something that turns a profit, then more of something that costs us money to sell.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:37 AM
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Probably similar to what's going on at most stores these days. No way in hell the PS3 can survive this onslaught.

P.S. How do you think the endless bluray manufactures are feeling right now seeing there obsolete players collecting dust, while HD-DVD sells all these players.


Let me ask you this, do you really think there is more money to be had if the CE companies supporting Blu-ray put out HD DVD players? No, Toshiba is undercutting even themselves because they have nowhere to turn at this point. So even selling a few Blu-ray players companies are making more money then they would putting out anything HD DVD. Toshiba is truly alone against everyone in this format war, and this is the final desperate act of a dying format IMHO. So funny enough you're thread is almsot the perfect reason as to why HD DVD may be doomed in the long run.
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Let me ask you this, do you really think there is more money to be had if the CE companies supporting Blu-ray put out HD DVD players? No, Toshiba is undercutting even themselves because they have nowhere to turn at this point. So even selling a few Blu-ray players companies are making more money then they would putting out anything HD DVD. Toshiba is truly alone against everyone in this format war, and this is the final desperate act of a dying format IMHO. So funny enough you're thread is almsot the perfect reason as to why HD DVD may be doomed in the long run.
of course i dont think they would be making more supporting hd-dvd...would never claim that and who in their right mind would. not possible...but you know perfectly well that these prices drop are retailer driven and not toshiba driven, which means toshiba is doing just fine in profits unlike sony which is still losing money hand over fist with each ps3. and you are naive to think that the dozen or so major bluray manufacturers can be anything but furious to see 1) their machines not moving and 2) sony undercutting their own allies to the point that noone would buy anything but a $399 player. and yes the amazon sales are a small glimpse of the sales going on but they are THE largest online seller, period. if you think that it's not significant to see toshiba occupying positions 1, 4, 17, 28, 30, and the closest non sony competitor at 64, on the largest online seller, you are totally in denial.

we'll see who has the last laugh in january when hd outsells bluray standalones like a 100:1. bottom line, ps3 can keep them floating forever...bluray is sinking like the titanic and you all are just in denial.
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wow thank you for explaing that to me I hadn't realized that was the reason they were doomed
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