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Old 09-07-2007, 02:36 PM
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Since 1080i & 1080p are the same resolution and same quality unless the screen size is monstrous and seating distance really close, there seems to be no reason for the BDA not to try and produce a 1080i /720p player. I mean....the majority of HDTVs out there are 1080i/720p and this will be that way for quite some time. All broadcasts are also 720p or 1080i and thats not changing soon either. I just dont get it.

Since a lot of people hate this format war, it appears that if the BDA would have only had a lower-cost option player 8-10 months back when a lot of the HD DVD adopters might have tried out BD instaed. We might not even have this battle right now. Instead though, when I was shopping, I saw $700 BD players that ran at 1080p which my plasma TV doesnt care about anyways. And, I had heard rumors(truths actually) that many of the current BD players at that time werent quite complete hardware-wise. So.... a $299 dollar HD DVD player or a suspect $700 BD player. For stand-alone players, there wasnt much of a choice....$400 dollar difference.

I had no loyalty and had nothing against any of the companies when I was shopping(I even have several Sony HD-related products) so that didnt affect my decision either.

Oh well...what COULD have been....
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:41 PM
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I know I am gonna start a flame-fest.

It seems pretty evident that Sony doesnt want to skimp on its product to lower the price.

(ie. they want to offer 1080p and don't feel it necessary to leave it out in order to lower the price)
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:43 PM
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I'd say because a value priced BD player would destroy 30% of the PS3 sales.

End of Story.
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:57 PM
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I know I am gonna start a flame-fest.

It seems pretty evident that Sony doesnt want to skimp on its product to lower the price.

(ie. they want to offer 1080p and don't feel it necessary to leave it out in order to lower the price)
Its not a flame Woody....its just that. Here we go again with the notion that there is something tangible gained, other than the 1080p sticker on your TVs bezel, from having 1080p vs 1080i/720p. The marketing teams have done a GREAT job of convincing people that if they dont have 1080p then they may as well have 480i. Thats fine... except it doesnt hold up. Like I said, most TVs are 720p/1080i.

Now....Sony makes and pimps a lot of 1080p sets....perhaps thats got something to do with it?

And, of course, any real video buff knows that Conrast, black-level and color accuracy have a LOT more to do with good picture quality than just resolution. That explains how many of the 1080p sets simply look awful next to 720p displays that beat them in every other critical category I mentioned.

There is no skimping when the resolution is the same.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:02 PM
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Its not a flame Woody....its just that. Here we go again with the notion that there is something tangible gained, other than the 1080p sticker on your TVs bezel, from having 1080p vs 1080i/720p. The marketing teams have done a GREAT job of convincing people that if they dont have 1080p then they may as well have 480i. Thats fine... except it doesnt hold up. Like I said, most TVs are 720p/1080i.

Now....Sony makes and pimps a lot of 1080p sets....perhaps thats got something to do with it?

There is no skimping when the resolution is the same.
I agree, they should release a player that only does 1080i, anything to be a little more price competitive would help. There is no difference on a 50" set and smaller, but you will see a difference (small) on a 90" screen.

There is also the "perception" that it is always better that I would guess they like also.
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1080i vs 1080p, there has to be a difference, even if it's a slight one.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:12 PM
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They should do so or place in their eventual specs that 1080p is mandatory. They could say they will never allow the Blu logo on a player that doesn't support 1080p and try to cheapen the 1080i players from the other side. With the number of manufacturers they could truly choose either route.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:15 PM
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It's why my 50" 720p higly-rated Panasonic plasma kicks the pants off my friends 42" 1080p Sharp LCD any day of the week.

He went for the 1080p rating and got a lower-rated smaller television with a lower contrast ratio, and spent more. Makes a lot of sense...right?
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1080i is not in the Blu-Ray finalized specs. Only 1080p is. I suppose they could all vote to modify the specs, but I doubt that will happen.
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1080i is not in the Blu-Ray finalized specs. Only 1080p is. I suppose they could all vote to modify the specs, but I doubt that will happen.
I don't think it's like that. If anything, maybe all players are required to support 1080p. But since not all the tvs support the 1080p signal, they obviously need the 1080i and 720p (and I guess 576 and 480) outputs too. There are movies with 1080i video too
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