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Old 02-11-2013, 04:13 PM
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Wondering why my Poll thread was closed? I didn't close it and there was no warnings and it was pretty civil for smackdown standards.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:18 PM
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lol I was wondering the same thing
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:03 PM
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Probably an inadvertent thread closure, my best guess. Can't imagine why it would be closed on purpose, lol.
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IMO, because of the constant merry-go-round of Blu-ray is a failure, tis not, tis so, tis not.
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Well im sure thats part of it. Thats always going to be part of a discussion in smackdown. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it. Maybe someone just doesn't like it being said.
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Maybe someone just doesn't like it being said.
I do not think so, a false statement stated 1000 times does not make it true, conversely a true statement stated 1000 times does not make it any more true (or false). IMO, EST, DVD and Blu-ray are what they are, post on some forum will have virtually no effect on their success or failure. I base that upon the war of regular DVD vs Divx DVD, 8VSB vs COFDM and Blu-ray vs HD DVD. The latter had several MS, Intel and other backers posting on forums like crazy and in the end it did not matter. The same was true of 8VSB vs COFDM, the COFDM backers raised such a stink they got the FCC to halt 8VSB adoption and do another round of testing. This was after 8VSB had been in testing for years and had been approved by the FCC. Once again it did not matter, 8VSB was mandated and we all switched.

For me, EST, DVD and Blu-ray is available and I use them all (EST very limited, 150 DVDs remaining, still in use and adding to my 375 BD). When UHDTV and 4K Blu-ray arrives I have ever intention to partake of that as well. I have no delusions about 4K, it will most likely be a very small market for many years.

I have been reading and posting on BBS since the mid 80's have observed a tremendous number of post stating something as fact (as pertaining to TV production/broadcasting, video/audio) when in reality it was nothing more than an opinion.

BTW, DVD vs Divx DVD on eTown forums (long defunct) would make the worst of Smackdown look G rated.
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I do not think so, a false statement stated 1000 times does not make it true, conversely a true statement stated 1000 times does not make it any more true (or false). IMO, EST, DVD and Blu-ray are what they are, post on some forum will have virtually no effect on their success or failure. I base that upon the war of regular DVD vs Divx DVD, 8VSB vs COFDM and Blu-ray vs HD DVD. The latter had several MS, Intel and other backers posting on forums like crazy and in the end it did not matter. The same was true of 8VSB vs COFDM, the COFDM backers raised such a stink they got the FCC to halt 8VSB adoption and do another round of testing. This was after 8VSB had been in testing for years and had been approved by the FCC. Once again it did not matter, 8VSB was mandated and we all switched.

For me, EST, DVD and Blu-ray is available and I use them all (EST very limited, 150 DVDs remaining, still in use and adding to my 375 BD). When UHDTV and 4K Blu-ray arrives I have ever intention to partake of that as well. I have no delusions about 4K, it will most likely be a very small market for many years.

I have been reading and posting on BBS since the mid 80's have observed a tremendous number of post stating something as fact (as pertaining to TV production/broadcasting, video/audio) when in reality it was nothing more than an opinion.

BTW, DVD vs Divx DVD on eTown forums (long defunct) would make the worst of Smackdown look G rated.
There is no true or false regarding opinions. Statements are true or false only if they are facts. Mal's opinion that Blu-ray is a failure is just that, his opinion. Keep in mind that he is looking at it purely from a sales standpoint, ie, expected sales vs. actual sales. His opinion that Blu-ray has failed to live up to sales expectations is one that I agree with.

The data actually backs him up. Blu-ray is showing signs of peaking at less than 20% of DVD's peak. And it can also be argued that these low BLu-ray sales figures are exaggerating by sales of Blu-ray/DVD combo packs. His conclusion that Blu-ray is a failure is based on his opinion that sales have been lower than expected by a wide enough margin for it to be considered as such.
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There is no true or false regarding opinions. Statements are true or false only if they are facts. Mal's opinion that Blu-ray is a failure is just that, his opinion. Keep in mind that he is looking at it purely from a sales standpoint, ie, expected sales vs. actual sales. His opinion that Blu-ray has failed to live up to sales expectations is one that I agree with.

The data actually backs him up. Blu-ray is showing signs of peaking at less than 20% of DVD's peak. And it can also be argued that these low BLu-ray sales figures are exaggerating by sales of Blu-ray/DVD combo packs. His conclusion that Blu-ray is a failure is based on his opinion that sales have been lower than expected by a wide enough margin for it to be considered as such.
Yes, it's easy to drill down certain things and say it has specifically failed to achieve things.

However, the general question still pertains: is blu-ray in _GENERAL_ a success?

I have asked this question to everyone in the past. If your feet were held to the fire and you had to answer. I believe in that poll, 1 or 2 people said no, everyone else said yes.
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Sorry man, you post sounds like some old 78 that got stuck in a grove and is repeating the same phrase over and over. Your post contains nothing that has not already been posted countless times. Suggestion, do a poll, post the same message and ask folks if they really care.

In my book if one is to be taken seriously they must show where they can equal or exceed whatever it is they are criticizing. So perhaps it would help if folks could post something about their personal successes. A short summary about me below, Facebook: Wendell Breland.

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Sorry man, you post sounds like some old 78 that got stuck in a grove and is repeating the same phrase over and over. Your post contains nothing that has not already been posted countless times. Suggestion, do a poll, post the same message and ask folks if they really care.

In my book if one is to be taken seriously they must show where they can equal or exceed whatever it is they are criticizing. So perhaps it would help if folks could post something about their personal successes. A short summary about me below, Facebook: Wendell Breland.

AVS Forum HDTV HDTV Technical The Official AVS Antenna and Related Hardware Topic! Post # 2475
Sorry man, you sound like someone a little too full of himself, and considers his opinion as fact. IMHO, the world has too many of those people.
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