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Old 07-19-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Blu-ray owns 95% of the high def player market in Europe

Of course it includes the PS3. This is the BDA response to the HDDVD release that said they own the standalone player market. Quoted because it demonstrates how much better the PS3 sells compared to any standalone.

http://www.dailytech.com/Bluray+Camp...rticle8097.htm
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:19 AM
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Heck, HD DVD throws out worthless BS numbers and Blu-ray responds in kind. The real question remains the same: What is the actual number of fully qualified players out there and how many movies are selling for each format since the former is almost guarnateed not be be truly knowable, it is the later that must be used as an indicator.

I'm pretty much done with the sales numbers debates because it is all about which figures someone choses to use at any given moment.

Looking at US figures - What, 2.5 million total HD players including PS3, add-ons, and stand alones... Maybe 400K vs. 2.1 million - so almost 85% of the US market belongs to Blu-ray. Yet, that number isn't the one people typically see.

I'm done looking at BS numbers and will stick with disc sales figures which seem to more accurately represent what is going on in the industry.

I am strong of the opinion that attach rates are likely very similar between both formats as well. Common sense dictates certain things to be true, untrue, or close to true... something that many people simply choose to ignore.
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Well here are all the current numbers on movie sales I have found.

Discshop HD movie Top 10 Sales (likely the largest Swedish online movie store):

1 Casino Royale (Blu-ray)
2 Flags of our fathers (Blu-ray)
3 Pirates of the Caribbean (2-disc) (Blu-ray)
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: Död mans kista (2-disc) (Blu-ray)
5 Departed (Blu-ray)
6 Prestige (Blu-ray)
7 Eragon (Blu-ray)
8 Ice Age 2 (Blu-ray)
9 Shark Tank HD - (Blu-ray)
10 Smokin Aces (HD DVD)


AxelMusic sales (popular European online retailer)

BLU-RAY HD-DVD
Weekly 49.6% 50.4%
Monthly 47.6% 52.4%
Yearly 44.0% 56.0%

Releases 359 321

Play.com, Webhallen, Ginza etc.. Did not have any HD titles on their top sellers lists..

So what did we learn of this, well not much, many other stores must post their numbers if we are going to see any trends.

So just based on these two, it looks like Sweden is completely blue, and denmark (where I believe Axelmusic is located) has a slight advantage for HD-DVD.
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:43 PM
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This is a joke, the PS3 is the new Sega Saturn it will be dead soon, The Gamers dont want it. The PS3 is a Game system that plays movies, but it has no games. How long can Sony gush blood over the system? Sony has a Player that is $499 and the PS3 is going back up to $599.
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This is a joke, the PS3 is the new Sega Saturn it will be dead soon,
please let us know how crow tastes
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Well here are all the current numbers on movie sales I have found.

Discshop HD movie Top 10 Sales (likely the largest Swedish online movie store):

1 Casino Royale (Blu-ray)
2 Flags of our fathers (Blu-ray)
3 Pirates of the Caribbean (2-disc) (Blu-ray)
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: Död mans kista (2-disc) (Blu-ray)
5 Departed (Blu-ray)
6 Prestige (Blu-ray)
7 Eragon (Blu-ray)
8 Ice Age 2 (Blu-ray)
9 Shark Tank HD - (Blu-ray)
10 Smokin Aces (HD DVD)


AxelMusic sales (popular European online retailer)

BLU-RAY HD-DVD
Weekly 49.6% 50.4%
Monthly 47.6% 52.4%
Yearly 44.0% 56.0%

Releases 359 321

Play.com, Webhallen, Ginza etc.. Did not have any HD titles on their top sellers lists..

So what did we learn of this, well not much, many other stores must post their numbers if we are going to see any trends.

So just based on these two, it looks like Sweden is completely blue, and denmark (where I believe Axelmusic is located) has a slight advantage for HD-DVD.
Most of Axelmusic sales are imports to the US since that's the route HDDVD's have to take to get some of the releases I can just walk into a store and buy.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:02 PM
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i don't know about the PS3 being dead soon. i hope not. as for 95% i believe it especially if the PS3 is counted.
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Most of Axelmusic sales are imports to the US since that's the route HDDVD's have to take to get some of the releases I can just walk into a store and buy.
And why is this a big deal? Here we go again...importing is a hassle....thats what BD'ers would have you believe. But, truthfully, importing is as easy as a few mouse clicks on any of the several Import Websites. Its no different than ordering from Amazon or anywhere else.

Oh darn, I cant buy my imports at Best Buy or Circuit City where they would be waaaaay overpriced anyways? Who buys HD media locally? Unless you are blessed with a major discounter near you?
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And why is this a big deal? Here we go again...importing is a hassle....thats what BD'ers would have you believe. But, truthfully, importing is as easy as a few mouse clicks on any of the several Import Websites. Its no different than ordering from Amazon or anywhere else.

Oh darn, I cant buy my imports at Best Buy or Circuit City where they would be waaaaay overpriced anyways? Who buys HD media locally? Unless you are blessed with a major discounter near you?
It may be as easy as amazon but it's more expensive for sure though.
And if you haven't noticed, most DVD sales are impulse buys when someone sees it at the store and grabs it. HD media is starting to fall into that category with movies going for $15.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:07 PM
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so it's 95:5?
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