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Old 07-04-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Toshiba laptops HD DVD deal = 25,000,000 of new HD DVD players in just 1 year.

Almost all blu-ray fanoboiz see Toshiba decision to include hd dvd players in every Toshiba notebook as no more then a desperate measure on Toshiba part. I beg to differ and i say that this is way bigger news then blockbuster thing or anything that came out lately.


I've looked at estimates of notebook shipped in 2007.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/2007...pcworld/132861

Total notebook shippment worldwide is estimated at 256 million units.
Taking Toshiba marketshare which is now 10% we are talking about 25,000,000. YES twenty five million HD DVD players. And that is in 1 year.
Tosbiba took lesson from Sony and it created far superior trojan horse then PS3.

I do not see Dell which supports blu-ray to put blu-ray player in each Dell notebook. the same is for Apple. they won`t do it

the only company which will try to counter this is Sony.

but Sony won`t be able t beat that with 5% laptop marketshare even if it decided to put blu-ray player to every Sony noteook plus all PS3 sales combined! It will still not beat Toshiba.

In one year we will have more HD DVD players then all blu-ray from every single source possible!

On the top of that we have HD DVD notebooks from HP and ACER already on the market.

this trend continues in 2 years we will have 50,000,000 of HD DVD players and in 3 years 75,000,000 HD DVD players.


Sony won`t be able to beat that.

I do not know like you but Disney, Fox, Liongate studio executives would have to be crazy to ignore such numbers.

Which means that they will become neutral. period.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:51 PM
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I see where you could be optimistic here, but the only way those numbers mean a thing is if the people who own those laptops buy movies. If even a small percentage of them start buying movies, then I think you are absolutely right. However, if all those players don't spur disc sales, then they aren't going to help much.
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was it really necessary to start YET another thread about this?
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I see where you could be optimistic here, but the only way those numbers mean a thing is if the people who own those laptops buy movies. If even a small percentage of them start buying movies, then I think you are absolutely right. However, if all those players don't spur disc sales, then they aren't going to help much.
Kinda hard to spur disk sales when you have a {most likely} $500 higher price tag than a laptop without a HD-DVD drive.

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Old 07-04-2007, 06:54 PM
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I see where you could be optimistic here, but the only way those numbers mean a thing is if the people who own those laptops buy movies. If even a small percentage of them start buying movies, then I think you are absolutely right. However, if all those players don't spur disc sales, then they aren't going to help much.
It will work the same way as with PS3. The attach rate will be low but given the sheer number of laptops HD DVD sales will still be far better then anything that Sony will be able to muster.
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nice, this is something like the PS3 factor
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Do you like breaking forum rules, bbc? Reported to the mods.

Already being discussed:

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=11019
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The numbers are wrong. Toshiba's market share is around 4.2% and their shipments are around 10 million per year.

Results and market share for Q3 and Q4 2006.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061019-8028.html
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9015801
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:01 PM
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First of all, its not a business deal since it doesn't involve another partner. Secondly, Toshiba sold around 9-10 million laptops in 2006. Its no guarantee they will have the same market share as last year. Lastly, just because they sold 9-10 million laptops last year doesn't mean they will sell THAT MUCH or more with a HD DVD drive. The higher cost will play a major factor in deterring would-be consumers to look elsewhere. The fact that its a HD DVD drive, not a Blu-ray drive, will also deter consumers to look elsewhere. It also does not mean people who buy Toshiba laptop will use the HD DVD drive to play HD DVD movies.

BTW ..Sony, Dell, HP, and Apple makes laptops too. They will at least have the option of a Blu-ray drive. Don't think BDA will sit still in 2008.
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The numbers are wrong. Toshiba's market share is around 4.2% and their shipments are around 10 million per year.

Results and market share for Q3 and Q4 2006.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061019-8028.html
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9015801
Funny
hahahahah lolololol
i have to say this is a major let down minus dell supports blu-ray a bit so if they start making a upgradeable one with blu ray and sony puts out lap tops with blu ray
toshiba wont even have much of a lead here if any
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