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Old 12-20-2011, 11:05 PM
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Read...I said the CD format, not the disc itself. The Red Book standard. The set of specs that allows a CD to play when it is inserted into a CD player. There is a difference between the format and the disc.

The rootkit fiasco was copy protection, not DRM. It was meant to thwart copying, not give specific rights to consumers to copy. DRM = Digital Rights Management.
There you go again making things up. The rootkit fiasco is the definition of drm. You put the disc in, youre presented with a EULA. How the heck is that not drm.

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Although Sony's rootkit fiasco was arguably the most harmful bit of DRM to ever come from Big Content, the MediaMax copy protection software deployed on other Sony discs also caused problems for consumers.

The faulty MediaMax DRM was covered by a legal settlement under which Sony agreed to stop using both the XCP rootkit and MediaMax DRM, issue a recall for all affected discs (as many as 4 million discs were shipped with MediaMax during 2005), and of course, pay attorneys' fees. Separate cases brought by the attorneys general of California and Texas were settled late last year.
Over 20 million discs were shipped with drm.

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Old 12-20-2011, 11:24 PM
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Look. UV will be less prone to piracy if it sticks with streaming, the same way youtube is a tad harder to pirate than a regular mp3 download. Stop making up these weird excuses about how digital content suddenly cant have drm if its stored on a disc. Its jibberish.
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Look. UV will be less prone to piracy if it sticks with streaming, the same way youtube is a tad harder to pirate than a regular mp3 download. Stop making up these weird excuses about how digital content suddenly cant have drm if its stored on a disc. Its jibberish.
It wont be sticking to streaming. Downloading will be a major part of UV. Just found out Paramount will be releasing Paranormal Activity as a Download before the Disc. It will be UV as well...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/par...ows-disc-25937

The studios know there is a large segment that when they purchase an item they want something in hand be it a disc or a download on the consumers computer. I expect this to continue in the future as the Hi Def downloads launch later this year. Should hear more about this at CES in a few weeks.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:34 AM
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I'm really not understanding how UV can compete in the iTunes, Vudu, Netflix realm. It lacks a set top box like Apple TV and Roku. I have yet to see it integrated in to TV sets and where are the apps for XBox360, PS3, iOS and Android? UV has a long uphill battle as there are other options that at the moment are more intuitive.

Honestly, though, how did we get off the Redbox topic???
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I'm really not understanding how UV can compete in the iTunes, Vudu, Netflix realm. It lacks a set top box like Apple TV and Roku. I have yet to see it integrated in to TV sets and where are the apps for XBox360, PS3, iOS and Android? UV has a long uphill battle as there are other options that at the moment are more intuitive.

Honestly, though, how did we get off the Redbox topic???
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You are correct. You may recall they first tried DRM. That didn't work becuse music purchased on iTunes would not play on other devices, and vice-versa (just like digital video distribution today). So consumers stuck with Apple, who got crowned king and could dictate terms - a de-facto monopoly for music distribution.

Eventually all hell broke loose and DRM was eliminated all together to promote competition between retailers and promote interoperability among consumer devices. Unfortunately, it also promoted piracy, which made a shambles of the music industry, and now makes movie studio execs crazy.

Difference between music industry and home video is that home video industry has rentals, where music industry did not.
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Eventually all hell broke loose and DRM was eliminated all together to promote competition between retailers and promote interoperability among consumer devices. Unfortunately, it also promoted piracy, which made a shambles of the music industry, and now makes movie studio execs crazy.
This doesnt make sense either. Piracy was a problem before digital music became drm free, as well as after.
Research also showed that piracy was a bigger problem before since drm made the legal option Inferior to the illegal option.
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/high...ce-piracy.html
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