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Old 01-23-2007, 12:22 PM
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Come on Murch, there's no way you can say you were not disappointed in the lack of some killer titles like Jurassic Park, Gladiator, Back to the Future or Jaws from Universal at CES.
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:27 PM
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Leave the darkside. I know there is good still in you. Thus Blu-ray is your answer.
So he can pay premium for less quality than Blu ray.
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:35 PM
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So he can pay premium for less quality than Blu ray.
Unsubstantiated, period. Last time I checked $499 PS3 is the same as the $499 Toshiba standalone. Last time I checked, Blu-ray movies have been beating HD DVD movies in quality on average (check this site for proof). Also, last time I checked Blu-ray discs were, are, and will sell for the same price and sometimes lower than HD DVD discs.

^^^That's called substantiation, so unless you have any other empty rhetoric you'd like to spew, go ahead and just save it as it is very easily refuted.
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:39 PM
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Unsubstantiated, period. Last time I checked $499 PS3 is the same as the $499 Toshiba standalone. Last time I checked, Blu-ray movies have been beating HD DVD movies in quality on average (check this site for proof). Also, last time I checked Blu-ray discs were, are, and will sell for the same price and sometimes lower than HD DVD discs.

^^^That's called substantiation, so unless you have any other empty rhetoric you'd like to spew, go ahead and just save it as it is very easily refuted.
But the Toshiba standalone (I assume you're referring to the A2) is readily available from certain reputable dealers for $399... Even less in some cases.
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:41 PM
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Not to mention that this is another stupid combo disc on The Jerk. Not only that, it is an old movie. Most people who like that movie have it on SD-DVD and do not need the stupid combo. Now if they sold it at the same price as a disc witout the combo, it would not be an issue.
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Unsubstantiated, period. Last time I checked $499 PS3 is the same as the $499 Toshiba standalone. Last time I checked, Blu-ray movies have been beating HD DVD movies in quality on average (check this site for proof). Also, last time I checked Blu-ray discs were, are, and will sell for the same price and sometimes lower than HD DVD discs.

^^^That's called substantiation, so unless you have any other empty rhetoric you'd like to spew, go ahead and just save it as it is very easily refuted.
Last I checked I could get a HD DVD player for $159. We can toss numbers around all we want. Let's compare true stand alone to stand alone and gaming system to gaming system because history has not shown that most people go out and get a gaming system to be their primary player. The Xbox and PS2 go in the kids room or basement as a secondary or third player. The living room and mom'n dads bedroom will have stand alone players.

You can buy PS2's and Xbox's now for dirt cheap, but people are still buying stand alone players. IF you showed me numbers that when PS2 and Xbox were released, that DVD stand alone players took a dive...now we might be talking. Because that would show me that the average mom 'n pop consumer sees these gaming systems as more than just gaming. But I promise you that my parents, uncles, non gamer friends, and MOST other consumers do not care to buy a gaming console as their primary system. For $500? They'll keep watching SD DVD's and wait until Blockbuster stocks enough BR or HD DVD rentals.

So can people stop saying that anyone is buying a 360 or PS3 with sole interest of it being an HD player? Because it's simply not happening. Gaming first, movies second.
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:59 PM
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At CES, Universal DID say they are going the combo format still. They feel this is the bridge etc...so a combo release should not surprise us. The Jerk & The Game are quality releases no doubt. The Jerk is a classic comedy gem and The Game a respected thriller. But....that's just 2 and pretty far off. We need more announcements from Universal. Either poop, or get off the pot.
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Come on Murch, there's no way you can say you were not disappointed in the lack of some killer titles like Jurassic Park, Gladiator, Back to the Future or Jaws from Universal at CES.

Nope. Do people honestly think that the studios are going to bring out their A-List titles for a market that hasn't even hit a half million players? Consumers have to show that they're willing to support the format before they get the crown jewels. It was like this for DVD. I don't know why people thought HD DVD and Blu-ray. You're not going to see LotR until 2008. Star Wars may not come until 2009. Gladiator will likely be 2008 at the earliest.

Studios want to see millions of discs fly off the shelves. Right now that's an impossibility. Blu-ray fans thank HD DVD for being here because you probably wouldn't have seen any Pixar movies coming soon if the pressure wasn't on to get out the top titles of recent years.
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Nope. Do people honestly think that the studios are going to bring out their A-List titles for a market that hasn't even hit a half million players? Consumers have to show that they're willing to support the format before they get the crown jewels. It was like this for DVD. I don't know why people thought HD DVD and Blu-ray. You're not going to see LotR until 2008. Star Wars may not come until 2009. Gladiator will likely be 2008 at the earliest.

Studios want to see millions of discs fly off the shelves. Right now that's an impossibility. Blu-ray fans thank HD DVD for being here because you probably wouldn't have seen any Pixar movies coming soon if the pressure wasn't on to get out the top titles of recent years.
As there's no way of knowing I have to disagree, but I will show why history leads me to disagree with you.
Twister was the first movie to be released on DVD; it was a new release at the time. You think that wasn't an A-title to come out right off the bat enticing people to look into the format?
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:12 PM
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I do think those are some weak titles to be announced with a VERY long gap between releases. However, there could be some game plan involved here on Universal's behalf.

I admit, I do own more movies on blu-ray versus my hd-dvd, but regardles, I'll buy a great exclusive no matter where the studios want to put it. In a few year's time, regardless of what format wins, HD players will end up playing either format. This is very comforting for early adopters.

In summary, I'm not really going to stand atop a hill holding a blu-ray banner or hd-dvd banner and pretending one is godsend while the other is evil. Either has a chance of taking the win and I'm excited for whatever good films come out.

My honest opinion at this time, blu-ray is getting many more titles and most of them I'm very excited about: The Prestige, Hitchiker's Guide, Marie Antoinette, Pirates of the Carribean, Spider-Man, Borat, Casino Royale and future Disney/Pixar stuff.

But just to put it out there: I'm way psyched for Children of Men, which better be hd-dvd bound.

I hope more of the semi-indie films like For Your Consideration, The Fountain and Pan's Labyrinth are put out in high-def. Pan's and Fountain would look unbelievable.

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