[ShadowDragyn]

Originally Posted by Philnerd

Once again, a BD person uses the PS3 to boost the player count:
"The competition is over. Blu-ray won, with more than a million players in the U.S. market and growing."

Whatever.

Originally Posted by joey0480

And I have a feeling HD WOULD have been ahead if not for the PS3. Pretty much Sony sold a system with no game line up so the public had to revert to using it as a blu ray player. If that was never incorporated into the PS3 blu ray would be on bottom. But, I guess it was a good marketing strategy from Sony.

What is wrong with you people? The PS3 is a Blu-Ray player, period. No amount of acting like it doesn't count is going to change that. It's here, and it's not going away. You people keep holding the "PS3 isn't a standalone" and "If it weren't for the PS3" arguments in front of you like a shield that will protect you from the truth.

I bought my PS3 as a gaming machine and as a Blu-Ray player. That's a fact. I'm not the only one. That is also a fact. Movies like 300 and Casino Royale that cater specifically to the same demographic that buys PS3s are setting records, and that is a major reason Blu-Ray is ahead and has been for months. Fact.

Yes, the current game lineup for the PS3 is substandard. That's about to change, but for now it's very true. Yet knowing that, over a million people have chosen to buy one anyway. Why would they spend $600 to buy something they know isn't going to pay off until months later? Answer: Blu-Ray. It makes it a smart buy even without games. Here's an "if" for you guys who keep dredging up these same tired arguments. If the PS3 didn't include a Blu-Ray player, with the games that have been available up till now, it wouldn't have sold nearly as many units as it has. That means that it *should* be included as a Blu-Ray player. And even for the people who don't own a single BD, they still have a player sitting in their house, just waiting for a juicy HD movie to be plugged into it and suck them into the house of Blue.

And that is a fact.

[joey0480]

Originally Posted by ShadowDragyn

What is wrong with you people? The PS3 is a Blu-Ray player, period. No amount of acting like it doesn't count is going to change that. It's here, and it's not going away. You people keep holding the "PS3 isn't a standalone" and "If it weren't for the PS3" arguments in front of you like a shield that will protect you from the truth.

I bought my PS3 as a gaming machine and as a Blu-Ray player. That's a fact. I'm not the only one. That is also a fact. Movies like 300 and Casino Royale that cater specifically to the same demographic that buys PS3s are setting records, and that is a major reason Blu-Ray is ahead and has been for months. Fact.

Yes, the current game lineup for the PS3 is substandard. That's about to change, but for now it's very true. Yet knowing that, over a million people have chosen to buy one anyway. Why would they spend $600 to buy something they know isn't going to pay off until months later? Answer: Blu-Ray. It makes it a smart buy even without games. Here's an "if" for you guys who keep dredging up these same tired arguments. If the PS3 didn't include a Blu-Ray player, with the games that have been available up till now, it wouldn't have sold nearly as many units as it has. That means that it *should* be included as a Blu-Ray player. And even for the people who don't own a single BD, they still have a player sitting in their house, just waiting for a juicy HD movie to be plugged into it and suck them into the house of Blue.

And that is a fact.

Wow...touchy touchy. Can't you blindly see that a scenario was being described above. It is not like I am going to hop in my time machine and go back and change things. Geesh man. I own a PS3 mainly for blu ray. Only have about 15 movies. I have a HD player with somewhere around 40 - 50 movies as well.

I still believe though that Sony selling a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE that had a poor lineup led people to use it for the alternative, a blu ray player...otherwise they would have had a high price black box sitting there for a few months with little to no use. That is my OPINION.

[BlueDiode]

I think the point was that it's not suprising that the Chairman of Blue Ray Technologies, which just invested $12M in a facility to produce blu-ray discs, is stating that that format has won the war. Which at this point in time, isn't a fact.

[joey0480]

BlueDiode, good point, that pretty much sums it all up. Until Toshiba officially announces that they are discontinuing their line of HD DVDs and players, the war is not over. And for them to be releasing a new line up of Hd players, I seriously doubt they will give up anytime soon.

[ShadowDragyn]

Originally Posted by joey0480

Wow...touchy touchy. Can't you blindly see that a scenario was being described above. It is not like I am going to hop in my time machine and go back and change things. Geesh man. I own a PS3 mainly for blu ray. Only have about 15 movies. I have a HD player with somewhere around 40 - 50 movies as well.

I still believe though that Sony selling a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE that had a poor lineup led people to use it for the alternative, a blu ray player...otherwise they would have had a high price black box sitting there for a few months with little to no use. That is my OPINION.

Yeah, I did react strongly on this one. I'm just tired of hearing that my box of choice doesn't count and isn't useful for X and so on. I'm tickled pink with my PS3 and couldn't be happier with it as a Blu-Ray. Now if the games would just catch up, I'll be even happier.

Sorry for the tone. It's been a bad week at work.

[joey0480]

Naw I hear ya. Sitting hear at work is kinda going slooow. One thing on the PS3 that I enjoy is a blu ray player is the Fast Forward function though. I wish ALL hd and blu had it. I mean you get that 1.5 which lets you still watch the movie only quicker Just not a big follower of sony here....but there were those exclusives i needed

[corduroygt]

wow, science fiction just became reality.

[Ben]

Originally Posted by corduroygt

wow, science fiction just became reality.

When science becomes the norm it is no longer fiction.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=381

[Philnerd]

Originally Posted by ShadowDragyn

What is wrong with you people? The PS3 is a Blu-Ray player, period. No amount of acting like it doesn't count is going to change that.

blah blah, same old argument. To say the PS3 and its dubious status as a blu-ray player has been discussed to death would be an understatement. My only response is that I can't wait to see what blu-ray fans cough up when HD DVD/DVD combo products are released with no standard DVD counterpart. Each of those sales - including the ones to people with no HD player - will show up as an HD DVD sale. Will be fun to watch how the BD people spin that around

[Crackbone]

Hilarious...


All of the negative tone in here. Look, again, Amir and his cohorts of Microsoft lackeys are incorrect again.

If there is demand the prices will fall automatically. The tone of the article is definately favoring BD. BD is the format of the future, and the fact we are getting new independent replicators up and running just solidifies that fact.

Discount the PS3 all you would like to but it stands to reason that much of the industry knows how powerful having a BD drive standard is to HD optical adoption.