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Old 06-01-2007, 10:07 AM
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Ok so I know due to some laws that Microsoft are only allowed to let us upscale through VGA and HDMI (not component).
Now with my tv the supported VGA resolutions are:
VGA - 640x480
XVGA - 800x600
XGA - 1024x768
Now i don't know what these are in terms of i or p, my tv is capable of upto 1080i (not 1080p ) But I don't think any of those are 1080i so not hd.
Anyway if i'm wrong there please correct me.
The thing I was wondering is since these VGA resolutions aren't HD what would happen if I got a VGA - HDMI adapter, would the signal recieved then be 1080i as it is hdmi and would dvd upscaling work?
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:35 AM
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What you would have to do is set the VGA settings on the 360 to an HD resolution (try 720x480 for 480p, 1280x720 for 720p, or 1920x1080 for 1080p). If you used any of the other resolutions, your TV most likely would not accept it due to an unrecognized resolution over HDMI.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:47 AM
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Ok thankyou for your comments I don't think those HD VGA resolutions are compatible with my TV.
What about this component to hdmi adapter Do you think this would enable dvd upscaling to 720p or 1080i or would this still not work as it is going through component?
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:44 PM
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Ok thankyou for your comments I don't think those HD VGA resolutions are compatible with my TV.
What about this component to hdmi adapter Do you think this would enable dvd upscaling to 720p or 1080i or would this still not work as it is going through component?
If you got the VGA-->HDMI adapter it doesn't matter whether or not your TV is compatible with those resolutions over VGA because they will be coming in as HDMI - since the resolutions I listed are equivalent to 1080p/i, 720p, and 480p, if your TV accepts those resolutions through HDMI you should be fine. The only problem you might have is with the HDCP handshake between the HDMI input on your tv and the adapter. Someone else may be able to help you better with that one.

As for the component-->HDMI - it does absolutely nothing for you. The 360 will detect that you have the component cable plugged in, and will automatically play all DVDs at 480p. All you'd be doing is transferring a 480p component signal into a 480p HDMI signal, which would do absolutely no good.
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Would a VGA to component adapter work in this situation?
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:06 PM
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I labored over this decision when buying cables for my 360. I chose the componant cables because of the higher resolutions possible.

When I upconvert a SD disk through the add-on it plays back in 480p but never higher. I didn't think it was possible to get an SD dvd to play in anything higher than 480p anyway.

When I play HD movies through the add-on and componant cables it comes through as 1080p on my set. I would just get the componants for the xbox and use the hdmi port on your tv for your computer....that's what I do.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:16 PM
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HD movies through the add-on and componant cables it comes through as 1080p on my set.
HD movies over component are only 1080i my friend. If that's what your TV says, it's lying to you. 1080p is only possible with games over component.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:49 PM
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i have found that i get the best picture on sddvd by having my 360vga upscale and output 720p, and then having my sony lcdtv upscale from 720p to 1080p. this looks LIGHTYEARS better than using my ps3 to upscale straight to 1080p. (i think doing it in 2 phases is what helps... i havent yet tried having my ps3 upscale to 720p insteade of 1080p yet)with my setup, most sdvds on the 360 look nearhd quality. colors arent as sharp of course, but sharpness and low-noise are near hd quality. everything looks grainy using the ps3s upscaling feature (over hdmi) i would definitely try doing something similar with your 360
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:41 PM
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To get it to work properly, at least with my Samsung, there is an extra option on my TVs VGA settings, where it has to be set to "Wide TV mode". Once I did that, and made sure my 360 was outputting my TVs native resolution, It was beautiful... brought a tear to me eye. Hehe, actually my TV is 720p native, so I didn't see a 'drastic' improvement over component, but I did notice improvment, nonetheless. In fact, I'd sat it's at least equal to my PS3, which is hooked up via HDMI (Color might be a bit richer on the PS3, but not by much).

BTW, I've noticed the PS3s upscaling to be a bit better than the 360s. Grain is more subtle and better AA. Reviewers have said the same thing.... But all in all, fairly similar. But it depends on your setup too.
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:28 PM
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I originally had VGA but was'nt impressed with the PQ, so swapped it for a component cable.
HD PQ was better, and PQ on standard DVD's was better than my old sony dvd player.
According to the guy in the shop, it's the 360 add-on that upscales, not the cable, but to be honest, everytime i ask, i seem to get a different answer.
Anyway, I'm sticking with component, to my eyes it looks better than VGA.
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