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Old 01-05-2008, 03:56 AM
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This is just a question of curiousity, no ranting or raving here. Please don't turning this tread into one.

But okay so two weeks ago Warner says they're staying format neutral. Thus encouraging people to buy into the format. Holidays are over and suddenly Warner drops support. So eventually everyone will likely have to rebuy on the other format....maybe I'm wrong...isn't that consumer fraud or something like that?
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Old 01-05-2008, 03:58 AM
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This is just a question of curiousity, no ranting or raving here. Please don't turning this tread into one.

But okay so two weeks ago Warner says they're staying format neutral. Thus encouraging people to buy into the format. Holidays are over and suddenly Warner drops support. So eventually everyone will likely have to rebuy on the other format....maybe I'm wrong...isn't that consumer fraud or something like that?
It is of course. Didn't hear about the Warner statement of 2 weeks ago however.
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Old 01-05-2008, 04:18 AM
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Warner only stated that they are currently neutral, not that they would stay that way indefinitely. No guarantee was ever made and anybody that purchased HD DVD should have been aware that it is a business and sales of HD DVD software has to be good enough to justify continuing and all other business factors need to be considered.

Since no other major studio was neutral, why would anybody believe that Warner would continue that way? Since there are no examples of two formats surviving and thriving for any given audio/video format type, why would anybody think this would be the first?

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This is all because Sony paid Warner to jump blu for screwing up the releases of Blade Runner, Harry Potter and T3. I joke!
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If accused of any wrongdoing in the format wars the aforementioned company will simply use the tried and true "Early Adopter" defense which states that they have absolutely no responsibility to us no matter how many lies they've told to sell product.
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:23 AM
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If accused of any wrongdoing in the format wars the aforementioned company will simply use the tried and true "Early Adopter" defense which states that they have absolutely no responsibility to us no matter how many lies they've told to sell product.
What lies? If HD DVD had been a big seller, it would continue to exist. It was a poor selling product worldwide. Companies develop products for markets and if they sell, great and if not, something else needs to be done. It is just business as usual.

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Old 01-05-2008, 06:27 AM
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This is just a question of curiousity, no ranting or raving here. Please don't turning this tread into one.

But okay so two weeks ago Warner says they're staying format neutral. Thus encouraging people to buy into the format. Holidays are over and suddenly Warner drops support. So eventually everyone will likely have to rebuy on the other format....maybe I'm wrong...isn't that consumer fraud or something like that?
Not fraud at all. Early adopter beware. Besides, what Paramount did was worse. They announced titles...and pulled them! At least Warner has the class to follow through with a 4 month window.
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Releasing some more HD-DVDs after the announcement of scraping them actually is less a thing of class but a decision to make some extra money.
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Not fraud at all. Early adopter beware. Besides, what Paramount did was worse. They announced titles...and pulled them! At least Warner has the class to follow through with a 4 month window.
The only reason that Warner is still releasing hd titles until May is because they are under contract to do so. I don't know if Paramount had any contracts with BDA at all. Most likely they did not, which would explain why they pulled all their blu-rays when they switched.
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This is all because Sony paid Warner to jump blu for screwing up the releases of Blade Runner, Harry Potter and T3. I joke!
Take these screwups which certainly cost Warner money (they were sending Harry Potter single releases for a "temporary" fix), add in questionable replication capacity and I'm curious whether Warner half expects Toshiba to lower prices to $99, sales to pick up, reverse the Neilsons (DV reporting parity between what 2.75 million PS3 + Blu-ray standalones can sell and what 750,000 HD DVD players can sell is yet another HD DVD efficiency at work). At which point the decision will be reversed.

If all the replication issues are true and the limited number of replication lines (not to mention the infrastructure cost), it's clear which solution is the better cost/value proposition for both the consumer and studios. Warner's move is very odd indeed.
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