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Old 11-20-2011, 06:08 PM
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Another reason HD-DVD is better than Blu-Ray!

Ok guys my rant is this - after purchasing a Blu-ray player about a year ago I find that many of the movies I own are laden with Trailers and advertising (Like the one's you see in movie theaters).

Sometimes it takes about 5-10 mins just to get into the movie!. This is quite annoying and not something I'm used too as I also own 3 HD-DVD players with 250+ movies and not many of them have trailers or advertising before the movie! the exception being the Warner and Studio Canal titles which at least let you skip that part!

anyone else find this frustrating?
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:34 PM
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The loading issue is because of the shit Java Software. Blu-ray players are quicker than HD DVD players but the Software programming is more complicate, at least they are equal slow/fast.
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Old 11-20-2011, 07:45 PM
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All my HD DVD players are excruciatingly slow at loading discs, and they are only 1080i, and don't have internal Hi Res audio decoders.

Many (most) of my Blu-ray players are extremely fast at loading discs, are 1080p, and have internal Hi Res audio decoders. Picture quality is excellent, and I can skip trailers just like that!

* At the end of the day I will have a Blu-ray movie starting to play much faster than a HD DVD one!
And because my TV is a 1080p, and accepts 24fps/1080p, and that my Blu-ray players can give it to it, and that HD DVD cannot, I think it's quite obvious about the much higher superiority of Blu-ray.

And not only that, but because HD DVD is dead for a long time, the players simply don't have what it takes nowadays to be competitive with all the other features on Blu-ray players. Plus much much more...

Hey, I got over 400 HD DVD movies, and I got three HD DVD players, and I got six Blu-ray players, and I got over 2,000 Blu-ray movies.
So make the calculation here.

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Old 11-20-2011, 08:15 PM
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My HD-DVD players provide 1080p video and lossless audio just fine. Maybe you should pick up a HD-A35 or HD-XA2 if you would like 1080p video and lossless audio?
Forced trailers are a nuisance on blu-ray, since frequently you must skip over them 1 at a time. But if HD-DVD were still in production, forced trailers would probably be the order of the day there also.
The initial boot-up time of my HD-DVD players is surely very slow - disc load times once the machine is booted are fine. Some blu-ray titles load up quickly - others are slow as death - someone already mentioned it being a function of whatever Java & internet routines someone loaded up in the blu-ray menu process as probably being the biggest culprit here. But time is also the issue here, as the blu-ray manufacturers have had a number of years and generations to improve performance of blu-ray players, where HD-DVD technological development is frozen in 2007.
Comparing the formats at this late date simply isn't practical - or productive. I enjoy my HD-DVD players and collection of movies - as well as my blu-ray players and collection of movies. It's all good!
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:15 PM
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All my HD DVD players are excruciatingly slow at loading discs, and they are only 1080i, and don't have internal Hi Res audio decoders.

Many (most) of my Blu-ray players are extremely fast at loading discs, are 1080p, and have internal Hi Res audio decoders. Picture quality is excellent, and I can skip trailers just like that!

* At the end of the day I will have a Blu-ray movie starting to play much faster than a HD DVD one!
And because my TV is a 1080p, and accepts 24fps/1080p, and that my Blu-ray players can give it to it, and that HD DVD cannot, I think it's quite obvious about the much higher superiority of Blu-ray.

And not only that, but because HD DVD is dead for a long time, the players simply don't have what it takes nowadays to be competitive with all the other features on Blu-ray players. Plus much much more...

Hey, I got over 400 HD DVD movies, and I got three HD DVD players, and I got six Blu-ray players, and I got over 2,000 Blu-ray movies.
So make the calculation here.

- You're a funny guy, you know that! :biggrin:
You have over 2,000 Blu-ray movies? Holy crap dude!

My Blu-ray players are the older type, purchased in 2008, so my experience mirrors that of the OP. It takes about the same amount of time to start loading the disc (close tray to the time it starts reading), but from there the java slows down everything to a crawl. Also the menus work much smoother on HD DVD.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:38 PM
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All my HD DVD players are excruciatingly slow at loading discs, and they are only 1080i, and don't have internal Hi Res audio decoders.

Many (most) of my Blu-ray players are extremely fast at loading discs, are 1080p, and have internal Hi Res audio decoders. Picture quality is excellent, and I can skip trailers just like that!

* At the end of the day I will have a Blu-ray movie starting to play much faster than a HD DVD one!
And because my TV is a 1080p, and accepts 24fps/1080p, and that my Blu-ray players can give it to it, and that HD DVD cannot, I think it's quite obvious about the much higher superiority of Blu-ray.

And not only that, but because HD DVD is dead for a long time, the players simply don't have what it takes nowadays to be competitive with all the other features on Blu-ray players. Plus much much more...
You are misinformed. Many HD DVD players can output 1080p/24fps and all of them have TrueHD lossless decoders built in. And it only takes about 25 seconds to load an HD DVD on my XA2. Which player are you using, the XA1?
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You are misinformed. Many HD DVD players can output 1080p/24fps and all of them have TrueHD lossless decoders built in. And it only takes about 25 seconds to load an HD DVD on my XA2. Which player are you using, the XA1?
Waiting for the "It does not internally decode DTS MA" argument. Yeah, I'm sure people with Pans Labrynth are really upset they can't listen to DTS MA, or a few of those concert discs. Though, as usual, it's worth noting no Blu-ray players could do that either when HD DVD was still around, so it's a pretty moot point.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:51 PM
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Waiting for the "It does not internally decode DTS MA" argument. Yeah, I'm sure people with Pans Labrynth are really upset they can't listen to DTS MA, or a few of those concert discs. Though, as usual, it's worth noting no Blu-ray players could do that either when HD DVD was still around, so it's a pretty moot point.
The XA2/Onkyo/Integra (same player - different shell) and A35 can bitstream DTS MA, and MA decoders are a common feature on receivers these days, so those few HD DVDs with master audio (mostly imports) can still be easily enjoyed to their fullest.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:07 PM
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Also another misconception is that 1080i players render 1080i on a 1080p display. That is false, as all modern 1080p HDTVs will properly deinterlace 1080i content and show it in 1080p.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:52 PM
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I have the HD-A1, the HD-A2, and the BD-UP5000 (the 5000 can't do 24fps/1080p properly from several HD DVDs).

All my HD DVDs are only DD+ or Dolby TrueHD (except for Pan's Labyrinth). :biggrin:

I won't be buying any more HD DVD players, like the HD-XA2 or HD-A35.
And I won't be buying any more HD DVD movies either.
- But maybe I should! ...Yeah, a used XA2 or A35 for only $50 or so! We'll see... I got time, plenty of it, till 4K, and true 3D. :biggrin:

* Actually I'm closer to 2,500+ Blus.
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