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Old 04-16-2009, 10:32 PM
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Default HD A1 or HD A35?

I found an HD A1 at a thrift shop for $90, should I get it or should I save up and get an HD A35?
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:44 PM
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$90 is way too much for an A1.
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:45 PM
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$90 is way too much for an A1.
What is an appropriate price for an A1?
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:43 AM
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Honestly.....nothing compared to the A35. Get the A35 (IMHO). A1 is slow, clunky, slow, huge, slow, buggy BUT has good DACs.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:23 AM
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Definitely get the HD-A35, it will bitstream the advanced audio codecs and outputs 1080/24p. I have had great luck with my HD-A1 and think it was a nice player but it is really slow and very limited.

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Old 04-17-2009, 09:08 AM
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I have an A1 and love it - but it's slow, it's clunky, it does not bitstream advanced codecs (but it will decode DD+ and TrueHD internally and output them via 5.1 analog and it sounds glorious), and it has no 1080p output 24 or 60. I'm told that the A35 has a better video processor too, but I can't confirm that. Oh, and the A1 remote is aweful. But an A1 is also a lot cheaper than an A35. You could buy several A1s for the price of 1 A35. If I was shopping for an A1, I would pay $45 - $60 for a mint A1, XA1, or HDV5000.

The A1 fills a nice gap for users (like me) who don't have HDMI on their receivers (or at least HDMI audio capabilities), but want to take advantage of DD+ and TrueHD without buying a new receiver, or sepending a lot on an A35 (or pricier model) that also has 5.1 analog outputs.

In my mind the only A1 shortcoming that I'm upset about that makes me wish for a more capable player is the lack of internal DTS-MA or DTS-HR decoding. Lots of import HD DVDs utilize the advanced DTS codecs. I can only think of 1 domestic HD DVD that uses advance DTS codecs (Pan's Labyrinth - though there are probably a few more), so if your collection is primarily domestic titles, the DTS thing might not be an issue for you. My TV can't handle a 1080p signal, so I don't really care about that. I' ve got a nice universal remote, so I can forgive the aweful remote too. I really don't care about how fast the player boots up, and I rather enjoy the fact that it's built like a tank. The analog audio sounds great.

If money's no object, go for the A35 (or better, XA2, 805, or 8.8). Maybe also consider a BH200, or BD-UP5000).

If you can live with the shortcomings, and are looking for a great bargain, pick up an A1, but don't pay $90 for it. You will find one for less.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:14 PM
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In my mind the only A1 shortcoming that I'm upset about that makes me wish for a more capable player is the lack of internal DTS-MA or DTS-HR decoding.
I thought the A1 was upgraded with internal DTS-HD/HR (but not HD/MA) decoding ability in a firmware update? The Wiki was even updated months ago to reflect it.

The DTS HD I get out of titles like T2: Ultimate via analog sure as hell sounds like HD to me...

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A1 is slow, clunky, slow, huge, slow, buggy BUT has good DACs.
Buggy? In what way?

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Grab an XA1 if you can - they go for about $80ish on eBay. I love mine (it does make a clicking noise though...gotta open it up and take a look).
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:51 PM
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I thought the A1 was upgraded with internal DTS-HD/HR (but not HD/MA) decoding ability in a firmware update?
The original Spec Sheet for the HD-A1 stated that it would decode DTS-HD (I posted the spec sheet over at TBS in the files section). The spec sheet reads just like the Wiki, but to my knowledge it just reads the core DTS. I think they just forgot the "(core only)" verbage. Maybe I'm wrong. The manufacturer's website (Toshiba) states the "(core only)" verbage:

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Here's my understanding:
There are 2 distictions in the DTS-HD format. There is DTS-HD Master Audio, and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio. Both of which can contain the core DTS Audio, output at 1.509Mbs when an HD decoder is not available -- most DD+ is lower bitrate than core DTS, which explains why DTS sounds good! There is no plain ol' DTS-HD, though a lot of people seem to refer to it that way.

Somebody feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:04 PM
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Yeah, I'm genuinely curious now. Because I'd been under the impression that DTS-HD/HR was brought to the table eventually.

Can anybody shed some light on this?
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