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Old 12-08-2008, 02:30 PM
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Default HD A2 produces vertical lines when in 1080i

I recently upgraded my LCD from a 37" 1080i to 46" 1080P and when I tried to view an HD DVD it game me small green vertical lines, hardly noticably until first spotted. These were all over the screen evenly spaced across the screen. I feared something was wrong with my new set.

I stopped the movie and went to the HD DVD setup menu and disabled 1080i and in 720P the lines went away.

There have been no such occurance of line in 1080i over broadcast or 360. All blus are playing fine on PS3 in 1080P.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? Never saw it on my old TV. New one is a Samsung LN46A500.

Which HD DVD player should I upgrade to for 1080P. I have nearly 200 titles and want the best picture available.

Is the A35 or XA2 the only choices?

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EDIT: Sorry, the A2 not A20. Hadn't looked and noticed currect model. If it was an A20 I could do 1080P credit Chris Gerhard

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Old 12-08-2008, 02:34 PM
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The HD-A20 should do fine at 1080/24p with firmware version 4.0.

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Old 12-08-2008, 03:01 PM
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Thanks for the tip. I never knew they had anymore firmware updates. I'll have to do that.

Edit: Just checked and mine is the A2 and it's only 1080i.

Question stands for the best deal for a 1080P HD DVD player.

I found I can get an A35 or XA2 for about 200 used or a A20 for 75 used.

Are the higher end models worth the higher cost? Mostly used for HD content. Don't play many regular DVD but got about a 1000.

PS3 or XA2 for upconversion? Or A20 in comparison.

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Old 12-08-2008, 03:51 PM
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Besides the awesome Reon in the XA2, the only thing the higher models (A35, XA2) will offer over the others is the ability to bitstream all HR audio and 5.1 analog connectors.

FYI, another difference between 2nd gen. and 3rd gen. players is if you send downconverted audio through the digital optical port, 1.5mb DTS is sent on the 2nd gen. while 640kbps DD is sent on 3rd gen. players.

If you do not need to bitstream audio, or don't care, then any HD DVD player other than 1st gen, A2 and A3 will do just fine in 1080p and should look identical.

P.S. Defenitely XA2 for upconversion, it is second to none.

Hopefully i've helped you some.
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I got a Yamaha rx-v663 that bitstreams HD Audio codecs. The XA2 is the best upconverter, above what I use now. For around the same price as an A35 I might as well go with that. Bitstreamed audio, upconversion and 1080P. All what I need.

Good to know that the 3rd gens don't have the same audio output bandwidth as the 2nd gens. Wouldn't matter to me though since I use HDMI.
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I got a Yamaha rx-v663 that bitstreams HD Audio codecs. The XA2 is the best upconverter, above what I use now. For around the same price as an A35 I might as well go with that. Bitstreamed audio, upconversion and 1080P. All what I need.

Good to know that the 3rd gens don't have the same audio output bandwidth as the 2nd gens. Wouldn't matter to me though since I use HDMI.
I have the RX-V663, Toshiba HD-XA2 and HD-A20. If you want an affordable 1080/24p player for your HD DVD's, the HD-A20 or HD-A30 do a good job now in my opinion. Both decode Dolby TrueHD but if you have many DTS-HD MA discs, you might want to try to find a deal on the HD-XA2 or HD-A35.

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I have the RX-V663, Toshiba HD-XA2 and HD-A20. If you want an affordable 1080/24p player for your HD DVD's, the HD-A20 or HD-A30 do a good job now in my opinion. Both decode Dolby TrueHD but if you have many DTS-HD MA discs, you might want to try to find a deal on the HD-XA2 or HD-A35.

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I think I'll try and find an XA2 for a good price. I haven't been able to test bitstreaming yet and have a reciever that can decode so why not. The PS3 decodes internally.

I don't think there will be a diference, but I didn't think HD audio would sound much better either. And of course it's a huge leap.
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I think I'll try and find an XA2 for a good price. I haven't been able to test bitstreaming yet and have a reciever that can decode so why not. The PS3 decodes internally.

I don't think there will be a diference, but I didn't think HD audio would sound much better either. And of course it's a huge leap.
I also own the PS3 and can't tell any difference in the audio compared to a Blu-ray player that bitstreams to the RX-V663. Our receivers are very modest obviously and I have seen claims from owners of more expensive HDMI 1.3a audio processing that believe bitstreaming is better than having a player decode and output PCM over HDMI. I am skeptical to say the least but I might try to find an objective analysis online and see if there is a definitive answer on the issue. I can also tell no difference between having the HD-XA2 bitstream compared to having the HD-A20 or HD-XA2 decode and output PCM.

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I recently upgraded my LCD from a 37" 1080i to 46" 1080P and when I tried to view an HD DVD it game me small green vertical lines, hardly noticably until first spotted. These were all over the screen evenly spaced across the screen. I feared something was wrong with my new set.

I stopped the movie and went to the HD DVD setup menu and disabled 1080i and in 720P the lines went away.

There have been no such occurance of line in 1080i over broadcast or 360. All blus are playing fine on PS3 in 1080P.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? Never saw it on my old TV. New one is a Samsung LN46A500.

Which HD DVD player should I upgrade to for 1080P. I have nearly 200 titles and want the best picture available.

Is the A35 or XA2 the only choices?

Thanks.

EDIT: Sorry, the A2 not A20. Hadn't looked and noticed currect model. If it was an A20 I could do 1080P credit Chris Gerhard
The lines might be due to the fact that your 1080p display doesn't de-interlace correctly. If you want true 1080p60, skip the A20/A30/A35.

You will need one of the ones below in this order:

#1) Toshiba HD-XA2 (preferred for build quality)
#2) Onkyo HD-DV805
#3) Integra DHS 8.8
#4) LG BH200 (only non-Reon of the bunch, but its Marvell QDEO VP is no slouch)
#5) Samsung BD-UP5000

That's it. Those are the 5 standalone players that can properly send 1080p60 to your display. The other alternatives are a HTPC or a 360 with VGA.
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