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Old 06-29-2010, 12:47 PM
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I just picked up this player brand new for a very good price and I want to say how impressed I am with it.

Being a first gen player, it is BIG. But with the size comes a very good build quality. It has gold plated analog audio outputs; not something that I would normally use but since my HDMI receiver is currently on the fritz I may actually use them to send TrueHD to my Sony STR DG500.

My previous player, the A35 was certainly nice, but I got it used and the fan sounded like a dying motor boat. Since this player is brand new, the fan is nearly inaudible. Also the A35 had a bad tendency to freeze up on combo discs. So far, I've had the RCA freeze up on Bourne Supremecy but I think that was the disc as I used the other Bourne Supremecy I have and it played fine.

The player came with the original firmware but after connecting the player to the internet and updating to 4.0 it runs very responsively and has about the same load times as the A35. It currently bitstreams DD+ to my receiver which then outputs it as DTS. Not quite as good as Dolby TrueHD but with some volume matching it does sound very good. It find it funny that although this player is pretty much the same as the Toshiba HD-A1 but that player costs five times more on Amazon.

True, this is a 1080i player but I believe that most 1080p TV's will deinterlace the 1080i image to 1080p. I have a 40" Sony KDL V2500 which is a first gen 1080p TV and the image quality looks very good. So unless you have a very large display or sit very close, I don't think the image quality will be a problem.

All in all I'm very satisfied with the player. It even fits the aesthetic of my component rack which is largely comprised of square components that are black and silver. I would highly recommend the RCA HDV5000 for a first time user or as a back up player to someone who already has one.

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Old 07-07-2010, 12:59 AM
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score another one for the good guys
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Old 07-07-2010, 07:18 AM
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Other than painfully slow startup and loading times, I think the HD-A1/HDV5000 is a good player. I still have my HD-A1 connected and use it. The problems my HD-A1 had with combo discs were mostly fixed with firmware updates. I owed the HD-A35 and it was even better in all respects in my opinion but there was a market for it so I sold it. I don't care what Amazon asking prices are on the HD-A1, selling one used for more than $50 is very difficult now.

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Old 07-07-2010, 07:33 PM
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the a-1 wasnt better than the a35 with 4.0 firmware lol cmon dude the 1080p from the a35 makes it better right there , can you says better audio as well ? yes
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I've always been happy with my A1/XA1 machines. A2/A3....eh.
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the a-1 wasnt better than the a35 with 4.0 firmware lol cmon dude the 1080p from the a35 makes it better right there , can you says better audio as well ? yes
Did you bother to actually read daybona's post?
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Other than painfully slow startup and loading times, I think the HD-A1/HDV5000 is a good player. I still have my HD-A1 connected and use it. The problems my HD-A1 had with combo discs were mostly fixed with firmware updates. I owed the HD-A35 and it was even better in all respects in my opinion but there was a market for it so I sold it. I don't care what Amazon asking prices are on the HD-A1, selling one used for more than $50 is very difficult now.

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The A1 is slower to boot and load, but when one is used to even slower load times (to movie start) with most Blu new releases due to java, it becomes a relative non issue.
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The A1 is slower to boot and load, but when one is used to even slower load times (to movie start) with most Blu new releases due to java, it becomes a relative non issue.
Ha, I could load two or three Java heavy Blu-ray discs with my PS3 or Oppo players in the time it takes for my HD-A1 to start up and load an HD DVD.

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Ha, I could load two or three Java heavy Blu-ray discs with my PS3 or Oppo players in the time it takes for my HD-A1 to start up and load an HD DVD.

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Yeah right. Since you're leaving out the start up for the PS3 and Oppo, let's leave it out for the A1. After all, a lot of people leave it on and besides you don't have to turn it off between movies.

I'm talking about the time it takes to get from close tray to :01 of the movie. To test your challenge, I timed 3-4 movies of each format on various players. Here are the boot times (power on to open tray) for each player. They were only timed once so the average boot time may differ somewhat.

A1: 46 seconds
XA2: 38
Samsung BD P1200: 13
LG BH200: 32

Now to get to the movie, there are two more measured phases, 1: from close tray to load (seeing something show up on the display) and 2: from load to movie start (:01 of the movie). I'll start out with HD DVD on the A1. I took a typical movie from each of the main 3 studios. The times read, close tray to load + load to movie start = total time from close tray. All disc were fast forwarded whenever possible to get to the movie as fast as possible once the disc was loaded. None of the movies chosen had forced trailers to get through ("UP" had the option to bypass the trailers, which I did).

A1
Goodfellas (WB): 1:01 + :50 = 1:51
American Gangster (Universal): :59 + 1:03 = 2:02
Shrek 3 (Dreamworks) 1:11 + 1:28 = 2:39

XA2
Goodfellas (WB): 0:28 + :41 = 1:09
American Gangster (Universal): :30 + 1:02 = 1:32
Shrek 3 (Dreamworks) :36 + 1:05 = 1:41

Blu-ray discs:

Samsung BD-P1200
UP (Disney): :32 + 2:13 = 2:45
Thunderball (MGM) 1:27 + 1:42 = 3:09
T2 Skynet (Lions Gate) 1:19 + 3:28 = 4:47

LG BH200
UP (Disney): :42 + 2:07 = 2:49
Thunderball (MGM) :59 + 1:27 = 2:26
T2 Skynet (Lions Gate) 1:19 + 2:30 = 3:49


The LG is the faster Blu-ray player and the average time to get to the movie from close tray is 3:01. Meanwhile the A1 average time for the same is 2:11, a difference of 50 seconds. Even if the boot up time were included, the A1 would deliver the movie in less time.

I know the PS3 and Oppo are faster, but I don't have those particular players in order to compare to. However much of the load to movie start time for a given movie will invariably be the same for any player. Therefore I question how much faster the total time to movie start can be on those players. Can anyone who has the PS3 or Oppo (or another player) measure one of the above Blu-ray movies and post the total time please?

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Yeah right. Since you're leaving out the start up for the PS3 and Oppo, let's leave it out for the A1. After all, a lot of people leave it on and besides you don't have to turn it off between movies.

I'm talking about the time it takes to get from close tray to :01 of the movie. To test your challenge, I timed 3-4 movies of each format on various players. Here are the boot times (power on to open tray) for each player. They were only timed once so the average boot time may differ somewhat.

A1: 46 seconds
XA2: 38
Samsung BD P1200: 13
LG BH200: 32

Now to get to the movie, there are two more measured phases, 1: from close tray to load (seeing something show up on the display) and 2: from load to movie start (:01 of the movie). I'll start out with HD DVD on the A1. I took a typical movie from each of the main 3 studios. The times read, close tray to load + load to movie start = total time from close tray. All disc were fast forwarded whenever possible to get to the movie as fast as possible once the disc was loaded. None of the movies chosen had forced trailers to get through ("UP" had the option to bypass the trailers, which I did).

A1
Goodfellas (WB): 1:01 + :50 = 1:51
American Gangster (Universal): :59 + 1:03 = 2:02
Shrek 3 (Dreamworks) 1:11 + 1:28 = 2:39

XA2
Goodfellas (WB): 0:28 + :41 = 1:09
American Gangster (Universal): :30 + 1:02 = 1:32
Shrek 3 (Dreamworks) :36 + 1:05 = 1:41

Blu-ray discs:

Samsung BD-P1200
UP (Disney): :32 + 2:13 = 2:45
Thunderball (MGM) 1:27 + 1:42 = 3:09
T2 Skynet (Lions Gate) 1:19 + 3:28 = 4:47

LG BH200
UP (Disney): :42 + 2:07 = 2:49
Thunderball (MGM) :59 + 1:27 = 2:26
T2 Skynet (Lions Gate) 1:19 + 2:30 = 3:49


The LG is the faster Blu-ray player and the average time to get to the movie from close tray is 3:01. Meanwhile the A1 average time for the same is 2:11, a difference of 50 seconds. Even if the boot up time were included, the A1 would deliver the movie in less time.

I know the PS3 and Oppo are faster, but I don't have those particular players in order to compare to. However much of the load to movie start time for a given movie will invariably be the same for any player. Therefore I question how much faster the total time to movie start can be on those players. Can anyone who has the PS3 or Oppo (or another player) measure one of the above Blu-ray movies and post the total time please?
Any reason why you selected HD DVDs with barebones menus like Goodfellas compared to T2 bluray which has a highly advanced menu? UP is a Disney disc and they usually have advanced menus too.

Anyway, here is a comparison of the S570 vs the PS3 for Spiderman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbV8vf7nuMA
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