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Old 06-24-2007, 01:14 PM
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I must say I am a little disappointed with what I have been reading about the
A20 I bought.

The documentation and anything to do with the unit says 1080p. I bought a 1080p HDTV. I wanted a 1080p HD DVD player. So instead of getting the cheaper A2, I bought the A20. Then I read that the A20 doesn't really do 1080p. It upconverts 1080i to 1080p. So it's not TRUE 1080p IMO. Kind of feels like false advertising to me.

Is there really that much of a difference? My Sharp says 1080p is being input from the player when I'm watching a movie, but I still feel a little ripped off that it isn't true 1080p that I was lead to believe.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:26 PM
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Yes, I totally agree with you. I read about this also. Definitely deceptive advertising on Toshiba's part. They should be ashamed. This really pissed me off. Don't know why they would do this and risk very negative publicity.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:34 PM
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Yes, I totally agree with you. I read about this also. Definitely deceptive advertising on Toshiba's part. They should be ashamed. This really pissed me off. Don't know why they would do this and risk very negative publicity.
I want to stick with HD DVD, but what ticks me off even more is I paid $549 (CDN) for the A20, I can go get the Sony 1080p BD player now for $599 (CDN). I have not heard anything about the Sony not being true 1080p.

(Edit: Not sure about the Sony even now after reading a few reviews. I guess if you get a cheap or midline player, you get what you pay for in either format. Still think Toshiba should not be allowed to call the A20 1080p if it truly isn't 1080p.)

Does anyone know if I will really see a difference between a true 1080p player and the A20 that upconverts to 1080p? Or am I making a mountain out of a mole hill here?

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Old 06-24-2007, 02:35 PM
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I don't think it's probably THAT big a deal, but it is kind of strange. I mean basically it seems like the A20 cannot accept a 1080p signal, but can output a 1080p signal, which is the opposite of many new tvs which can accept 1080p but cannot ouput one. weird.
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Its not that it doesnt do 1080p natively its that because hd dvds are 1080p24 when running 1080p60 it does 3:2 pulldown to get 1080p60. This will be corrected in september when 1080p24 comes out, even if your tv doesnt support it supposedly.

Also for a tv that does better pull down than the player i hear its not as effected as much.

I have the a20 and the ps3, and i actually have mi3 on both as i got one as a present, watching both at 1080p, i can tell you the difference in some scenes arent different to my eye.

Also If you watch the vatican scene do you see major artifacting in 1080p and when you switch to 1080i do you see none? Cause on my tv again, I dont see any artifacting on either resolution
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:12 AM
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Lol 1080i and 1080p are the exact same resolution (1920 x 1080) just one is interlaced and one is progressive. FYI, if your 1080p has a descent deinterlacer in it, 1080i and 1080p would look identical. Also just so you know. All 1080p players do this 1080p to 1080i and then back to 1080p process. The A20 will be just fine. You should enjoy it. Trust me.
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:39 AM
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^^^^^ 'All 1080p players do this 1080p to 1080i and then back to 1080p process' Thank god you stated this.

Yes he is 100% correct, there is no such thing as a 'pure' 1080p signal from the source (Disc) to player (hd-dvd or blu-ray) to the tv. All 1080p sources are laced and delaced or vice versa in the process.

So don't be pissed or think you've been cheated by toshiba, and don't feel bad because 99% of people don't understand the 1080p/i debate, most just hear 1080p and assume thats all that is going on.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:20 AM
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Actually lol there is such a thing as a true 1080p process, the players that output the 1080 @ 24p is the holy grail of 1080p. Sorry i forgot to mention this earlier. But anything that outputs 1080 @ 60p is the conversion.
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^^^ Exactly, and what im trying to say is that in september toshiba will be coming out with the 1080p24 update for both the A-20 and X-A2.

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Old 07-01-2007, 04:13 PM
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You know its interesting you mention that, I had also heard that with that update, for the XA2, would allow the bitstreams of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA passthrough too.
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