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Old 07-22-2015, 03:25 PM
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Updated versions? Sure, why not. You guys don't seem to have a problem with the fact that 2/3 of the year's XBONE lineup is cross-gen.

Also, Journey's cross-buy compatible, so it's free for people who had it on PS3. Still, nobody really counted Journey to begin with.

As for Tearaway... Barely anyone played that game on Vita, so for most people? It's not going to be an "old game" especially since it's mostly new content to boot, not a remaster.
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-Same game I played before: Fuck that I never want to play that shit again.
-Same game as before with a little better resolution: I would rather pay for a little improvement than get the same experience for free.
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:51 PM
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So to summarize:


-Same game I played before: Fuck that I never want to play that shit again.
-Same game as before with a little better resolution: I would rather pay for a little improvement than get the same experience for free.
Incorrect. It's actually like this:

For a given game X I would actually play:

- If I haven't played X yet: Remaster of X is clearly better, because it's the less-gimped version and usually includes all DLC as well. (Ask anyone who played GTA V on PS4 vs. PS3, or TLoU on PS4 vs. PS3.) Choosing to instead buy and play the old version is just dumb, unless you are utterly destitute.
- If I have played X: I probably don't want to play it again.
- If I have played X, but it's so amazing I want to play it again: 50/50. Free is good, but playing it with better visuals and 2x the frame rate is probably worth $X as well... at least it adds a reason to play it yet again. Do I just want to watch Terminator 2 on VHS yet again... or do I want to pay $10 to upgrade to DVD? If I'm such a huge fan of T2 as to want to watch it for the 5th time... yeah, I'll spring on the DVD.

So as you see, for a given game a remaster is actually quite attractive, if you actually look at it logically instead of brain-vomiting, as a fanboy does, on the topic.

Of course, REMASTERS VS. BC is not the real fight; it's just a strawman. If every game that was available with BC were available truly and well remastered, then it would be a fight (and remasters would win that fight, I assure you... people love to double-dip for a better version). That's not the case however.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:06 PM
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Now Xbox users are being compared to racist southerners.
You only have yourselves to blame for bringing us PS4 Yankees the CoD crowd. Now we gotta deal with the toothless hicks, gun nuts and kissing cousins who play that series. Shit, I gotta brush up on my Jeff Foxworthy jokes and Larry the Cable Guy movies now.

It's a good thing I only pay for games and not MP when I pay for PS+.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:13 PM
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You only have yourselves to blame for bringing us PS4 Yankees the CoD crowd. Now we gotta deal with the toothless hicks, gun nuts and kissing cousins who play that series. Shit, I gotta brush up on my Jeff Foxworthy jokes and Larry the Cable Guy movies now.

It's a good thing I only pay for games and not MP when I pay for PS+.
Damn, you should switch to the xbox son. You get MP and games for free there. *


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Old 07-22-2015, 04:14 PM
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Incorrect. It's actually like this:

For a given game X I would actually play:

- If I haven't played X yet: Remaster of X is clearly better, because it's the less-gimped version and usually includes all DLC as well. (Ask anyone who played GTA V on PS4 vs. PS3, or TLoU on PS4 vs. PS3.) Choosing to instead buy and play the old version is just dumb, unless you are utterly destitute.
- If I have played X: I probably don't want to play it again.
- If I have played X, but it's so amazing I want to play it again: 50/50. Free is good, but playing it with better visuals and 2x the frame rate is probably worth $X as well... at least it adds a reason to play it yet again. Do I just want to watch Terminator 2 on VHS yet again... or do I want to pay $10 to upgrade to DVD? If I'm such a huge fan of T2 as to want to watch it for the 5th time... yeah, I'll spring on the DVD.

So as you see, for a given game a remaster is actually quite attractive, if you actually look at it logically instead of brain-vomiting, as a fanboy does, on the topic.

Of course, REMASTERS VS. BC is not the real fight; it's just a strawman. If every game that was available with BC were available truly and well remastered, then it would be a fight (and remasters would win that fight, I assure you... people love to double-dip for a better version). That's not the case however.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:15 PM
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I would assume this is the same reason you haven't bought a PS4.
You would assume right. The fact that anyone owns these consoles right now kind of mystifies me. Maybe im just fucking old and crotchety.

If fallout wouldnt have been announced, id happily wait until late next year to get one but in order to keep the peace in the household, i'm going to have to spring for one of these new stupid ass consoles sooner rather than later.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:16 PM
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You only have yourselves to blame for bringing us PS4 Yankees the CoD crowd. Now we gotta deal with the toothless hicks, gun nuts and kissing cousins who play that series. Shit, I gotta brush up on my Jeff Foxworthy jokes and Larry the Cable Guy movies now.

It's a good thing I only pay for games and not MP when I pay for PS+.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:25 PM
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I cant wait until the bulk, if not all my 360 (and og xbox) games work on the one. I can retire my x360 to another room, even replace it with one of my fats that is collecting dust.
But i am biased, i love the idea of a new console playing older games as i rotate games like a girl on her heavy period changes tampons

I am also ok with remasters, i just hate how much emphasis they are this gen with being the big game released. Its a fresh coat of paint, not a NEW game..
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:28 PM
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Damn, Gears and Rare in August got delayed?!!? I mean they must have if Indy's calendar is right
Forza 6 is also launching september 2015
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:31 PM
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You would assume right. The fact that anyone owns these consoles right now kind of mystifies me. Maybe im just fucking old and crotchety.
I don't get this at all.

If you have a good PC, OK, fair point. But if you don't, there are plenty of good games released on the new consoles. Most of them aren't exclusive, but that isn't a requirement.
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