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Old 06-08-2009, 01:54 AM
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I have a Samsung LA32A650 - 60Hz Full HD - (AUS equivalent of LN32A650 in the US) and notice epic screen tearing in RE5 on Xbox 360. I've tested with the official Microsoft HDMI cable, high quality Monster HDMI cables and the official Xbox 360 Component AV cables and it still happens. This is really annoying, as it DOESNT happen when I connect it to an old CRT HDTV through component at 1080i. No screen tearing whatsoever. None. At all.

Anyway, I'm looking to upgrade my 32" Samsung to a new 24p capable Full HD 120hz display. While I'm at it, I'd also like to buy something that doesn't have/minimizes screen tearing. So I went into my local Harvey Norman and tested on two top of the line new LCD HDTVs; the Sharp LC32D77X (Full HD, 100/120Hz, true 24p capable) and the Sony KDL32W5500 (Full HD, Motionflow 100Hz, 24p capable).

I thought that because these TV's (well, the Sharp at least) are 120Hz, they will refresh twice as often and therefore elimate/minimize screen tearing. I was wrong. Both had screen tearing in Resident Evil 5 with and without motionflow/100hz/120hz active.

So I ask you, are there any HDTV's that don't suffer from screen tearing? Is this an unavoidable result of the LCD technology? Do Plasma HDTV's suffer from the same problem and finally, how can I minimize/eliminate screen tearing with an LCD/Plasma HDTV?
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Hi guys,

I have a Samsung LA32A650 - 60Hz Full HD - (AUS equivalent of LN32A650 in the US) and notice epic screen tearing in RE5 on Xbox 360. I've tested with the official Microsoft HDMI cable, high quality Monster HDMI cables and the official Xbox 360 Component AV cables and it still happens. This is really annoying, as it DOESNT happen when I connect it to an old CRT HDTV through component at 1080i. No screen tearing whatsoever. None. At all.

Anyway, I'm looking to upgrade my 32" Samsung to a new 24p capable Full HD 120hz display. While I'm at it, I'd also like to buy something that doesn't have/minimizes screen tearing. So I went into my local Harvey Norman and tested on two top of the line new LCD HDTVs; the Sharp LC32D77X (Full HD, 100/120Hz, true 24p capable) and the Sony KDL32W5500 (Full HD, Motionflow 100Hz, 24p capable).

I thought that because these TV's (well, the Sharp at least) are 120Hz, they will refresh twice as often and therefore elimate/minimize screen tearing. I was wrong. Both had screen tearing in Resident Evil 5 with and without motionflow/100hz/120hz active.

So I ask you, are there any HDTV's that don't suffer from screen tearing? Is this an unavoidable result of the LCD technology? Do Plasma HDTV's suffer from the same problem and finally, how can I minimize/eliminate screen tearing with an LCD/Plasma HDTV?
try making your resolution at 720p

but other than that screen tearing has nothing to do with your tv i believe, not sure.

I don't remember any tearing in re5 for me though.


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RE 5 has screen tearing.
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try making your resolution at 720p
Though I suspect this suggestion was a longshot, setting the output resolution to 720p fixed the screen tearing somehow! I was/still am in such utter amazement that I actually tested this three times, and each time the tearing was gone! But I have no idea why it's gone, and why it occurs when I set the 360 to 1080p.

To try and better understand why the tearing was gone, I then tested at 480p and 1080i. At 480p there is tearing. At 1080i there is no tearing. I then tested with a different Xbox 360. The same results as last time.

If anyone actually knows why this is happening and could explain this it would be greatly appreciated.



*Note: all tests performed with the official Microsoft HDMI cable on a Samsung LA32A650
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Though I suspect this suggestion was a longshot, setting the output resolution to 720p fixed the screen tearing somehow! I was/still am in such utter amazement that I actually tested this three times, and each time the tearing was gone! But I have no idea why it's gone, and why it occurs when I set the 360 to 1080p.

To try and better understand why the tearing was gone, I then tested at 480p and 1080i. At 480p there is tearing. At 1080i there is no tearing. I then tested with a different Xbox 360. The same results as last time.

If anyone actually knows why this is happening and could explain this it would be greatly appreciated.



*Note: all tests performed with the official Microsoft HDMI cable on a Samsung LA32A650
well im glad it worked good for you!

i suggested the 720P because earlier when I got my 360 I nearly pulled my hair out in frustration with the slew of the earlier games that had screen tearing and i did some research.

some game I don't remember which, had screen tearing but if you changed the resolution to 720P, it reduced the tearing for some reason. I don't remember details.

I don't remember tearing in re5, then again my tv is only capable of 1080i and you said you tested it and no tearing?

tearing doesn't bother me anymore, I think I just got used to it

I also used to get bothered by the motion blur in lcd's and now I don't even notice/care.

I do care about lag though
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Yup, 1080i and 720p have little to no tearing (there is some towards the bottom of the screen if you really pay attention). The 1080p bit is a bug in Capcom's engine that becomes worse since the game isn't v-locked.

The PS3 version is v-locked but that one has a wildly unstable frame rate and missing particles.
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I remember now, dead rising I believe was a game that had real bad tearing and if you changed the resolution I think it reduced it alot.

but there were a slew of earlier 360 games that had bad tearing like saints row, I noticed the newer 360 games are much better about tearing
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Yup, 1080i and 720p have little to no tearing (there is some towards the bottom of the screen if you really pay attention). The 1080p bit is a bug in Capcom's engine that becomes worse since the game isn't v-locked.

The PS3 version is v-locked but that one has a wildly unstable frame rate and missing particles.
I guess that's why I didn't see any tearing because my tv is maxed at 1080i
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I play Resi 5 in 1080p and there is lots of tearing. 720p is supposed to show none though
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I'm glad I saw this. I noticed a lot of tearing also on my XBR6 with RE5. I didn't know that the issue was the 1080p setting...I'll move it down when I play RE5 now.
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