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Old 04-11-2018, 06:28 PM
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Default Possible leaked specs of Playstation 5 "Project Epsilon"

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Other information about PS5 includes:
100% backwards compatible with PS4 games
Fully compatible with PS VR and PlayStation Move offering a improved VR experience
CPU: AMD Zen 8 cores – single-chip custom processor
GPU: 14.20 TFLOPS, AMD Navi-based graphics engine
Memory: 32GB GDDR6 technology
Storage – 1TB SSD
The latest PS5 document is full of grammar errors, which is a huge red flag. It uses a similar template to the PS4 Neo (PS4 Pro) leak in 2016, with was proven to be accurate, but appears far less professional.

It claims that all games developed by Sony Interactive Worldwide Studios with production starting after April 1, 2018 will be exclusively for the Project Episilon system.

Other information on the alleged PS5 internal document includes:
All PS4 and PS4 Pro titles will have an update patch to run better on PS5
Stably rotating games at 60 frames per second
This is where it really starts to fall apart. Every PS4 game to get a software patch so it runs better on PS5? Nah. And 60FPS when some PS4 games don’t even run well at 30FPS? Throw 4K into the equation and it seems very unlikely.

It seems that this alleged internal PS5 document for ‘Project Epsilon’ is simply information taken from the recent PS5 specifications leak, with a few decent guesses and a few silly ones. With rumors that Sony’s new console will be released over the next couple of years, there’s plenty of speculation doing the rounds, and it’s not unusual to see fake documents.
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full of doubt, that looks very expensive.

GPU more powerful than a 1080ti?
32GB memory is excessive.
1TB SSD is not going to be cheap enough by next year.

BC wouldn't surprise me, it's been a hit for Xbox and PS4 is far less complex than PS3 was.
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Old 04-12-2018, 08:49 AM
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full of doubt, that looks very expensive.

GPU more powerful than a 1080ti?
32GB memory is excessive.
1TB SSD is not going to be cheap enough by next year.

BC wouldn't surprise me, it's been a hit for Xbox and PS4 is far less complex than PS3 was.
I disagree.

Hard drive space consistently drops in price year in and year out.

Graphics memory and RAM are always the ifs, IMO.
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Honestly, Sony would be stupid to release a PS5 in the next year or two, they are owning the market and the PS4 Pro isnt exactly selling like crazy, they have amazing games coming out, why would they NEED to do anything....everyone else has to play catch up, I have an Xbox One X and it runs things great (still need a 4K TV to really get the best though) and the same could be said for an even better Playstation but my PS4 runs games great still too, it was already better than the Xbox One when it came out and with what, almost 80 million systems sold in 4 years, whats the rush? If everything does end up being backwards compatible anyways, another reason for people not to care right now, there just isnt a need to upgrade for most people, some of them sure because they can (I got my Xbox One X for 380 so I did it ) but whats the point for the majority of people to jump ahead in that short of amount of time?
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:22 PM
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full of doubt, that looks very expensive.

GPU more powerful than a 1080ti?
32GB memory is excessive.
1TB SSD is not going to be cheap enough by next year.

BC wouldn't surprise me, it's been a hit for Xbox and PS4 is far less complex than PS3 was.
I have doubts as well.
Am sure each time they design a console they come up with a xx GB (or MB in the past) is sufficient but yet each time, over time, over the life of the console it becomes apparent it is not. 32GB is relatively inexpensive, especially at the volume they would produce it. Low end SSDs at that size can be had for just a bit over $150 on the consumer market. What can Sony do with it in bulk?
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It’s all pretty crazy, but why in the world the RAM? Why not 20GB? 24?
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Old 04-13-2018, 12:22 PM
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Seems like BS.

1. They're not going to change architectures, so there's no reason to have a 1+ year lead time.

2. This is way too much horsepower for a 2019 machine. Maybe 2022.

3. Way too much RAM.
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It’s all pretty crazy, but why in the world the RAM? Why not 20GB? 24?
Yeah, specs do read a lot like "MO4R POW3R!!!!"
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Honestly, Sony would be stupid to release a PS5 in the next year or two, they are owning the market and the PS4 Pro isnt exactly selling like crazy, they have amazing games coming out, why would they NEED to do anything....everyone else has to play catch up, I have an Xbox One X and it runs things great (still need a 4K TV to really get the best though) and the same could be said for an even better Playstation but my PS4 runs games great still too, it was already better than the Xbox One when it came out and with what, almost 80 million systems sold in 4 years, whats the rush? If everything does end up being backwards compatible anyways, another reason for people not to care right now, there just isnt a need to upgrade for most people, some of them sure because they can (I got my Xbox One X for 380 so I did it ) but whats the point for the majority of people to jump ahead in that short of amount of time?
Agreed. They have 2019 already locked. There's no way Days Gone, Last of Us 2, Death Stranding, and Ghost of Tsushima release in 2018. Maybe one of those (Days Gone) but they have more than a solid enough line-up for 2019 as well. 2020 at the earliest for PS5. That feels like a good year. Death stranding and Last of us 2 in 2019 to polish off this generation, followed by next gen "remasters" to start the next one off.
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Sources: The PlayStation 5 Is Still A Ways Off

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A recent online rumor got people buzzing about a possible 2018 release of PlayStation 5, but that’s probably not going to happen. In fact, from what we’ve heard, the next PlayStation is a ways away—it may not arrive until 2020.

It’s been nearly five years since the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One launched, which has triggered bouts of nervousness and excitement among video game fans who want to know when they’ll have to start hoarding pennies for a new generation of consoles. The PS4 launched seven years after the PS3, the Xbox One eight years after the Xbox 360. It’s not unreasonable to be thinking about the next generation. We don’t have a concrete answer just yet, but we have been asking around, and what we’ve heard is a whole lot of uncertainty.

Over the past month, I’ve spoken to dozens of game developers, across a variety of disciplines and studios, about the next generation of consoles. Of those, two people said they were directly familiar with plans for Sony’s new console. Those two people both told me that the next PlayStation is unlikely to release in 2019, let alone 2018, although they were careful to be clear that these plans are always shifting. “On a multi-year project, a lot can happen to shift schedules both forward and backward,” one person said. “At some point, Sony’s probably looked at every possible date. It’s all about what they think is the best sweet spot in terms of hardware.” A surprise move by Microsoft or another competitor, for example, could trigger a change in plans.

Most of the developers I spoke to, via phone and email and text, said they had not heard anything about plans for a new PlayStation. Even employees at Sony’s first-party studios said they have not yet been briefed on the existence of a PlayStation 5. People across all the disciplines (design, art, engineering, etc.) at major studios working on games scheduled for 2019 and beyond have told me that if there is information about the PS5 at their companies, they haven’t heard about it. (Those people said they haven’t heard about a new Xbox, either.)

In summary: There is information about the PlayStation 5 floating around at both first- and third-party companies, but it’s far more limited than it would be if the console’s release was imminent.

Last week, an article from a website called Semiaccurate alleged that a large number of PlayStation 5 development kits had gone out to game makers. The article also speculated that the console could be out by the end of 2018. This article is behind a paywall—“Pricing is $1,000 for a year’s worth of access”—but ResetEra rounded up some of the details. When I showed those details to one person familiar with Sony’s plans, they laughed. For the PlayStation 5 to be out this fall, they said, it would already be in manufacturing. (And if that was the case, it’d come as a big surprise to a lot of people who are making games for this fall and beyond.)

PlayStation 5 development kits are another question. A development kit is a proprietary piece of hardware that allows game-makers to build and optimize games for a specific console. It usually comes with proprietary software, too, such as a console’s operating system and other “debug” features that allow developers more access to the hardware than they’d have with a retail device. It’s possible to replicate a console’s development environment by using software on a computer, and these days, game engines like Unity and Unreal can facilitate that process, but in order to release games on the PlayStation, developers will ultimately need the tools and licenses provided by devkits. These development kits are especially useful for debugging and preparing for certification, the process that Sony uses to test and approve of new games.

But the term can be misleading. To say that “PS5 devkits” are out in the wild could mean several different things. “Super early devkits are often PCs with the CPU and GPU,” said a source familiar with Sony’s console development, referring to the processor and graphics card of the future machine. Early “development kits” might not resemble a PlayStation at all.

An early devkit “is a literal desktop tower—it doesn’t look like anything,” the source said. “First devkits are almost always that. They might have a custom motherboard or might literally be a PC. You want to get one or two of those out to the lead graphics programmer [of a studio] so they can see what’s possible, start planning what they can do in their game based on that. That’s early devkit stuff.”

As a result, before a new console is released, studios will typically work with multiple versions of development kits. One person who worked in a high role at a major game developer said that their company had received proper PS4 devkits, then code-named Orbis, about a year before the console launched in November 2013. Another person who worked for a major game studio said they were working with PCs dressed up as development kits around 18-24 months before the PS4 came out. The PlayStation 4, unlike its predecessor, was built with PC architecture, allowing more flexibility there.

If these early PS5 devkits are out at game studios now, they are likely extremely well-hidden. With earlier PlayStations, sources said, Sony had worked hard to keep development kits secret, even sometimes asking game studios to lock them in rooms where access was restricted to a select group of people.

Making things more complicated is the existence of Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro, upgraded versions of each respective console that have their own dedicated development kits. These “mid-generation” hardware refreshes suggest that Microsoft and Sony have taken a different approach to the current cycle of consoles, and it’s fair to wonder how they might influence future consoles. Those mid-gen upgraded consoles are still new. The Pro came out in November 2016, while Xbox One X released in November 2017.

What we’re hearing from developers is that most people expect Sony’s next console to be a PlayStation 5, a machine that runs games that won’t run on PS4, but that they don’t expect it for a while. At the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco last month, secondhand rumors I heard also suggested a 2020 release. Word from a few people was that in meetings between Sony and developers, representatives for the publisher had dropped vague hints about that 2020 timeframe. But it’s worth reiterating: When it comes to hardware, anything can change.

Sony did not respond to a request for comment.
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