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Old 06-14-2013, 01:45 PM
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I posted this in the Hansel & Gretel threads:

If there are 2 separate reviews for the Hansel & Gretel's 2D and 3D versions, and
the extras are only on the 2D disc, then the reviews should have different scores
in the High Def Extras section. The 3D review shouldn't have stars for what is
only on the 2D disc.

But then again, the 3D version (combo pack) DOES include the 2D disc, so you are
getting those extras, so the adding the stars makes sense. Unless, a version is
released with a standalone 3D disc.

But BUT, the DVD is also included, and do we add stars to the review based on
what is on the DVD? No. (Heck, who even care these days what is on the DVD,
except the film of course, for the kids to play in the minivan's DVD player.)

I'm just gripping about multiple threads, about multiple versions, about multiple
combo pack strategies (see Oz release), it's like the format war again!

Wait, just wait, HDD will one day start reviews for the online streaming versions,
too. Isn't that inevitable when the majority of content is distributed online one
day?

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In the Oz thread, I posted:

This is great! Kudos HDD!! Bravo!!!

For what you ask?

You essentially did the opposite that Disney did. Disney split up the 3D and the 2D
versions (which is absolutely fine if priced appropriately, which they aren't). Usually,
there's 2 separate threads for the 3D and 2D reviews, but this time HDD has a special
combo thread with the 3D and 2D review comments!

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This issue is actually going on in my collection shelves. I've segregated the 3D
films in a different section, but it's getting to the point, I think I need to
integrate my collection.

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HDD staff, has there been any thought to changing the way separate reviews
are posted (especially if the reviewer is the same person)? I'm thinking there
must be a better way to present the reviews.

Sometimes in your multi-movie reviews (trilogies, Director compilations, etc.),
you breakdown the scores to each movie, each scoring, maybe something like
that? With in the same review, score the 3D and score the 2D, in subsections
on the same page?
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:46 AM
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I just came to post a similar comment,
the number of separate threads for multiple versions of the same movie makes it far more difficult to participate that it should be.

If I want to talk about Pacific Rim from the movie standpoint, not the technical standpoint, I have to pick a thread.

I get why the reviews are separate, but we really need combined threads here in the forum.
I think it's crazy to have 4 threads on Pacific Rim, we have 2 pre-order threads, one for 2D one for 3D, then 2 review/discussion threads.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:20 AM
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I think the purpose of having separate threads is wanting to have the review itself be the focus, or anchor, of the thread. IMO the reviews done here are certainly extensive enough to be worth a dedicated thread, and only some movies have a separate 2D and 3D review done for them. In that case I would think the 2D movie would get the bulk of the actual movie discussion (unless the 3D version turns out to be more popular).

The preorder threads are meant for discussion before the review comes out and should be abandoned once it does, IMO. Anyway, there's drawbacks for both methods (a movie thread vs a review thread) but given the high quality and the extensiveness of the reviews here, I certainly believe they should be the focus.
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Old 10-25-2013, 05:01 PM
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There should be SEPARATE pre-order threads and review threads.

Who knows if a disc will ever be reviewed? So there should be separate pre-order
threads. But after a disc is reviewed, it would be great if the pre-order thread
gets folded in somehow to the review thread. Maybe the pre-order thread gets
closed for new comments, but it gets mirrored into the first pages of the review
thread?

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2D and 3D review threads should be COMBINED. Diane, is right about that.
Very few comments in 3D threads is about the 3D technical details alone.

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2D and 3D reviews themselves, should be COMBINED. Only very few exceptions
(like Oz the Great & Powerful) where standalone 3D versions were sold. And in
this case, a $6 mail-in offer added the 3D disc.

Bruce, despite the high quality of reviews (which I agree), the actual difference
between 2D and 3D reviews is 1 or 2 paragraphs. There's no reason for separate
reviews or separate threads because of a few dozen different words in the reviews.

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Now if the 3D blu comes out years later like Wizard of Oz 3D, then obviously the
3D review and thread should be SEPARATED.

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I'll keep trying to push this rock up this hill. Diane, thanks for pushing, too.

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2D and 3D reviews themselves, should be COMBINED. Only very few exceptions
(like Oz the Great & Powerful) where standalone 3D versions were sold.
You neglect to take into consideration that there are other reasons it may benefit the site and the site's staff to have separate reviews published, for example for SEO purposes.
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You neglect to take into consideration that there are other reasons it may benefit the site and the site's staff to have separate reviews published, for example for SEO purposes.
Okay, I understand there are economics to consider for having separate 3D and
2D reviews. But if that was the main goal, then by that logic, should HDD also
have separate reviews for the Extras? Separate reviews for the Vital Stats?
Have us click through and load 5 separate webpages for 1 review?

I think at the end of the day, having honest, detailed, thorough reviews will
drive the page views and reach the bottom-line (without gimmicks of artificially
generating click-throughs). Content will win out in the end; I'm an optimist.

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Josh, most 3D and 2D reviews have just 1 paragraph of difference. You and I
both hate it when studios release double-dips and triple-dips with very minimal
changes (slipcover with 15th anniversary written on it, crappy holiday ornament
[your words], the trailer is included this time.) Isn't it kind of difficult to
criticize those money grabs, if you defend separate reviews due to 1 different
paragraph. Is that an unfair question?
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:17 PM
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Yay! HDD, hip, hip, horay!

Man of Steel 3D and 2D discussion threads were combined!
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Yay! HDD, hip, hip, horay!

Man of Steel 3D and 2D discussion threads were combined!
I was coming down to compliment that too, it's a much smarter way of doing it.
While SEO is a good reason to separate the reviews, it doesn't make sense in the actual forums.
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