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Old 04-12-2008, 06:53 AM
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Default Best budget HDMI upgrade receiver for 2.30 firmware upgrade

Hi all,

I have an old Yamaha AV Receiver with optical inputs. It only decodes DD and is thus rather limited with the PS3. As the new MA upgrade is out shortly it seems the ideal time to upgrade the amp. What should I be looking for with regards to an upgrade that will do pretty much everything without breaking the bank?

I was looking at this Sony amp:

http://www.richersounds.com/showprod...Y-STRDG510-SIL

What are your opinions? I can't push to an Onkyo 604 (I think that is it) as it will cost 400 in the UK. Advice/suggestions appreciated.
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I have the STR-DG910, and it's a fine receiver. Not sure what the differences are between the 910, 710 and 510 thou..

The 710 is cheaper...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-STR-DG7...7997487&sr=8-1
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Default Be careful with the 510..

Be careful with the 510 as even though it has HDMI it doesn't support hdmi audio, it only functions only as a switch so your not getting anything much better than you have now. Like mgillespie I chose the 910 as well due to the difference between prices and features of the 710, 810 and 910. I have been getting skeptical of sony audio products for a while, but overall this has been a great investment. If the 710 and 810 perform in close to the same range they should be good buys as well.

The 710 and 910 are on clearance/sale right now at onecall.com fyi
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another vote for the 910.
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FYI: The 710 will not process 5.1 or 7.1 PCM over HDMI (for some weird reason Sony decided that the 710 will only take DD, DTS and 2.0 PCM over HDMI). The 810 is the lowest Sony model out right now that you would want to get.

I wouldn't get any of them though, these Sony's are so underpowered it's ridiculous. Especially when offerings from other brands who don't bloat their power ratings are in the same price range.
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I wouldn't get any of them though, these Sony's are so underpowered it's ridiculous. Especially when offerings from other brands who don't bloat their power ratings are in the same price range.
Based on what evidence? Or is this just AV Snobery?
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Based on what evidence? Or is this just AV Snobery?
Unless you believe in magic... They claim 110 W/channel, but this is only possible with 2 channels driven. The power consumption on these are all less than 250 W. Unless these are generating their own power, or are greater than 100% efficient, they aren't going to even be able to have 110 W/channel peaks in surround sound mode, let alone RMS.
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Unless you believe in magic... They claim 110 W/channel, but this is only possible with 2 channels driven. The power consumption on these are all less than 250 W. Unless these are generating their own power, or are greater than 100% efficient, they aren't going to even be able to have 110 W/channel peaks in surround sound mode, let alone RMS.
They must be pretty efficient. I have a 910 and its plenty powerful enough, the loudest I ever have to put it at is 2/3 of the volume. I've had Yamaha, Pioneer, and Denon receivers in the past and I'd recommend the 810 for PS3 owners on a budget looking for multi-channel PCM support. They can be had for less than $250.

You are right about the 710, it should be avoided as its only 2-channel HDMI.
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They must be pretty efficient. I have a 910 and its plenty powerful enough, the loudest I ever have to put it at is 2/3 of the volume.
"Louder" isn't the only benefit of better amplification. I'm sure even at 2/3 volume on the 910 you're getting significant clipping, and turning it up further will only introduce more and result in greater distortion. Other AVR's also have lower THD (these low end Sony receivers have 10% THD in surround mode). More headroom in the amplification also allows much better dynamics, which improves the clarity of the sound reproduction and imo more-so than going to lossless audio.

added: it's sad that even in stereo mode, these Sony's have 1% THD, which I think most would agree is audible
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Onkyo TX-SR605. Im sure the Sony is nice, but the cheapest i see it is in the low 300's and the 605 is only $50 more and it has a lot more features.
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