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Old 10-29-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default US version of Casino Royale is significantly cut

from the DVDTimes review:

One of the reasons for the lengthy delay in this review being published is the amount of time it took me to track down an uncut version of the film. The UK release is widely known to have been cut, removing a single shot and line of dialogue from the infamous torture scene, but the US release of the film is often erroneously believed to be uncut. It is in fact, far more heavily cut than its British counterpart, with two key action sequences being heavily truncated, removing a considerable amount of their intensity and also, in one instance, resulting in some glaring continuity errors. (I have compiled a detailed and spoiler-intensive list of the cuts made to the US release here.) I initially bought the US version, and was saddened to say the least when I discovered how heavily cut it was. Then, based on misinformation from a Sony Pictures insider, who had categorically stated that the only cut releases of the film on Blu-ray would be the US, UK and German releases (the German release is actually uncut), I purchased the Korean release, only to discover, to my horror, that it was exactly the same disc that had been released in North America, right down to the "Made in the USA" text on the disc art. Eventually, I was able to track down the Region 0 Finnish release, which, like the versions released in the rest of Scandinavia and Australia (using, it would seem, the exact same disc), is completely uncut, and is considered to represent Martin Campbell's definitive cut of the film.

Having viewed the US/Korean, UK and Finnish discs, I have come to the conclusion that the video quality on each is identical, at least to the naked eye.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:23 AM
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this absolutely BLOWS! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!
I have "Casino Royale" and did NOT know this.
I am so sick of all the FUCKINGGGGGGGGGGGG censorship on dvds, etc.
I did not see this in the theater in the US. was it cut in the theater? In other words, is the US Blu-Ray the way it was seen in the US?
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That review is incredibly misleading. The difference between the US release and the "Uncut" release (which is also available on Blu-ray from Australia) amounts to exactly 22 seconds, none of which are important to the story or continuity of the movie. The differences are detailed here:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=29150

The two are virtually indistinguishable unless you run them back-to-back, and in fact I had to play the stairwell fight about 35 times (not an exaggeration) to catalog the changes, most of which are literally a few frames of film (35mm film runs 24 frames per second).

The American Blu-ray presents exactly the cut of the movie seen in American theaters.
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from the DVDTimes review:
If you're going to quote from another web site's review, you should always provide the original link.

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=64945
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Josh. thank you very much for clearing this up.
but still why any differences? still don't get it.
they are saying the extra footage would have changed the rating in the US?
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Josh. thank you very much for clearing this up.
but still why any differences? still don't get it.
they are saying the extra footage would have changed the rating in the US?
yeah it was too violent and would have been rated R if those 22 seconds hadn't been removed, the MPAA is crazy
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Josh. thank you very much for clearing this up.
but still why any differences? still don't get it.
they are saying the extra footage would have changed the rating in the US?
Those scenes were trimmed to secure a PG-13 rating in this country. The ratings boards in Australia and some other countries were apparently more lenient.

In the UK, the scene of LeChiffre torturing Bond was cut because the BBFC censors there objected to all the stuff about smacking him in the balls.
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Those scenes were trimmed to secure a PG-13 rating in this country. The ratings boards in Australia and some other countries were apparently more lenient.

In the UK, the scene of LeChiffre torturing Bond was cut because the BBFC censors there objected to all the stuff about smacking him in the balls.
Does anyone know who has the Australian version in stock? The link provided in the article "ezydvd.com" is sold out.
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Does anyone know who has the Australian version in stock? The link provided in the article "ezydvd.com" is sold out.
EzyDVD seems to cycle through their Blu-ray stock regularly. Give it a couple days and check back with them.
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EzyDVD seems to cycle through their Blu-ray stock regularly. Give it a couple days and check back with them.
OK, I just ordered a copy from them. Thanks.
This is one of my favorite Bond movies, so I have to check it out.
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