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    Default Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - HDD Review

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    Target Exclusive
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    UPDATE 4/6/17:

    Matthew Hartman and Shannon T. Nutt teamed up to review Rogue One: A Star Wars Story on Blu-ray as well as in Digital HD via VUDU. Check it out!

    http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/4431...warsstory.html

    UPDATE 4/8/17:

    Shannon has also reviewed Rogue One in 3D:

    http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/4432...ybbtarget.html

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    The international cover art for the Steelbook is pretty bad IMO. Zavvi announced their cover art and then I saw the Best Buy one - both the same of course.

    Due to the current Disney and Amazon spat you cannot preorder this via Amazon. It's not like there won't be enough copies made and it readily available no matter which store you go into.
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    I don't mind the steelbook artwork. It's okay, but would much rather have had the poster art or something similar be the cover. Not liking the bestbuy .ca price either ($34.99 Cdn).

    Would love to get that Target exclusive, but with HMV going out of business now, I don't really know which Canadian retailer would release it here.

    And is the 3D discs exclusive to the exclusive Target edition and Best Buy steelbook? On the Walmart and Best Buy (.ca) websites, they have listings for their exclusive editions, the regular blu-ray, and the DVD; no 3D version though.
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    Like most everyone else, I was beyond shocked when this turned out to be a great movie! Can't wait to own it on UHD. Until then Disney knows where to shove it.
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    Loved this movie more than the Force Awakens. Day one buy for me!

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    right on, I won't be buying anything Disney until they jump on board UHD. BUT when they do, oh man it's going to be costly I know I will double dip on their classics and there is a $hit ton of those as we all know.
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    UPDATE 3/26/17:

    While we eagerly wait for our Blu-ray to arrive, Matthew Hartman has reviewed Rogue One: A Star Wars Story in Digital HD via VUDU. Check it out!

    http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/4431...warsstory.html

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    "However, in this form, I didn't feel the sense of immersion that the theatrical Dolby Atmos track provided, or the sort of experience that the upcoming Blu-ray's DTS-HD MA 7.1 mix should deliver. This Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 mix more or less just covers the bases."

    It "just covers the bases" and that gets 4 Stars for
    Audio Quality!!!

    "this HDX outing - like most streaming experiences - is not the ideal way to view this film."
    "Unfortunately, the experience wasn't a flawless one."
    "my viewing experienced suffered clarity loss."

    And that gets 4.5 Stars?!?!?!

    If this is the first Digital HD streaming review, it
    can be argued as a baseline setting, that the Video
    and Audio automatically get 2.5 Stars only. And I'm
    not asking for that low of a ranking. But 4 and 4.5
    Stars?!

    Your corporate overlords are asking you to train
    your cheaper, younger employees to replace you.
    Physical media, go train your streaming
    replacement. Train them and grade them with 4 &
    4.5 Stars.

    (Okay, I'm a little miffed. I have a physical media
    addiction. I "digest" High-Def. And this review
    gives me inDIGESTion.)

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    Grading the Digital HD with such high scores, leaves
    no room for error for the blu-ray reviewer. The blu-
    ray must get 5 Stars just to reflect relative
    outperformance.

    And wouldn't it be better to have the same reviewer
    for both the Digital HD and the blu-ray? Having
    Matthew review one and Shannon review the other,
    makes the goal of comparing irrelevant. Matthew's
    "apples" Stars compared to Shannon's "oranges"
    Stars, results in no basis for judging the various
    formats.

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    "Disney was kind enough to give us a Digital HD copy of Rogue One, which we are reviewing here as a bit of an experiment."

    My daydream version...
    "Disney was kind enough to give us a Digital HD copy of Rogue One, and we told them to f*ck off. Send us the real thing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by timcharger View Post
    Grading the Digital HD with such high scores, leaves
    no room for error for the blu-ray reviewer. The blu-
    ray must get 5 Stars just to reflect relative
    outperformance.
    I know you're a smart guy so you probably already know what I am saying here. I thought that when UHD came out that the bar was raised. A 5-star BD review might end up with 3.5 on UHD. At the same time a 3.0 BD review might give you a 4.5 or 5.0 streaming score. It is saying that for a streaming title here's where it rates. A BD should not automatically lose 2 points because it doesn't have HDR and 4K. A good 4.5 or 5.0 BD is as flawless as the format can bear. I just hope the readers don't think a 4.5 streaming score is endorsing it as nearly flawless.


    Regarding daydreams - here's mine.. No UHD, thanks, but no thanks. Are we really anywhere yet with even hinting a Disney entry into the market? They do Dolby Vision and Atmos at the theater so wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rikimaru View Post
    right on, I won't be buying anything Disney until they jump on board UHD. BUT when they do, oh man it's going to be costly I know I will double dip on their classics and there is a $hit ton of those as we all know.
    Please be honest. Do you really see that much difference to justify many double dips? I certainly don't. There is an improvement but it is not mid blowing compared to going from DVD to BD was. I'm planning to go forward by getting 4K/UHD BDs when available but I won't be upgrading more than a handful of my current BDs. The ones that I might be willing to upgrade would be the "classics" especially those shot on film in a widescreen format. They might be worth the upgrade but most other movies are fine for me as 1080P BDs. And I might add I find 1080P BDs actually do look better on a 4K screen. The upscalers in 4K players and TVs are just phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krawk View Post
    I know you're a smart guy so you probably already know what I am saying here. I thought that when UHD came out that the bar was raised. A 5-star BD review might end up with 3.5 on UHD. At the same time a 3.0 BD review might give you a 4.5 or 5.0 streaming score. It is saying that for a streaming title here's where it rates. A BD should not automatically lose 2 points because it doesn't have HDR and 4K. A good 4.5 or 5.0 BD is as flawless as the format can bear. I just hope the readers don't think a 4.5 streaming score is endorsing it as nearly flawless.
    I get that when comparing blu-rays and UHD, the
    scoring system will be applied differently.
    Inherently, one has 1080 lines of resolution and
    the other 2160 lines of resolution. So unless we
    adopt a system of maximum 5 Stars for blu-rays
    and a maximum of 10 Stars for UHD, we can't
    directly compare the apples to oranges scores.

    But for Digital HD versus blu-ray, that distinction
    is less apparent each day. As the pipe and
    bandwidth expands, the digital data may become
    identical. This: "a 3.0 BD review might give you
    a 4.5 or 5.0 streaming score" may not be
    inherently true anymore.

    And as consumers, we are faced with this decision.
    Buy the Digital HD version only versus buy the way
    we've been doing it for decades. Replace your
    shelves with a digital library in the cloud. So there
    is value in making the Digital HD reviews graded
    in the same scale as the other formats.

    As much as I am a supporter of physical media, I
    will yield to evidence. If streaming is equal to
    physical media, I may change my mind then. I buy
    more ebooks than physical books now. I still do
    buy physical books, so don't worry, my precious
    physical media collection. Not to worry, Daddy
    still loves you.

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    What is this you guys 1st transition to a new format? Let me help you through the process. I liken is to the 5 stages of grief.

    1. Denial, that the new format could be better.
    2. Anger, that it seems to indeed be better.
    3. Bargaining.. "meh isn't worth it cuz Disney isn't on board" (which is inevitable, Force Awakens hdr demos have been seen)
    4. Depression, as you face the reality of buying your collection again.
    5. Finally Acceptance. If nothing else, soon you'll have 4K ready equipment, and say "oh fuck it" and buy a player and some discs on sale.

    Little tip, think hard about how many times you watched something on one format. For me I shed fat every time a new format dawns. So don't despair, just wait for the UHD and borrow a friends copy in the meantime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plissken99 View Post
    What is this you guys 1st transition to a new format? Let me help you through the process. I liken is to the 5 stages of grief.

    1. Denial, that the new format could be better.
    2. Anger, that it seems to indeed be better.
    3. Bargaining.. "meh isn't worth it cuz Disney isn't on board" (which is inevitable, Force Awakens hdr demos have been seen)
    4. Depression, as you face the reality of buying your collection again.
    5. Finally Acceptance. If nothing else, soon you'll have 4K ready equipment, and say "oh fuck it" and buy a player and some discs on sale.

    Little tip, think hard about how many times you watched something on one format. For me I shed fat every time a new format dawns. So don't despair, just wait for the UHD and borrow a friends copy in the meantime.
    The review isn't for the UHD of Rogue One. It's for
    the Digital HD. I wonder if the stages of grief is
    different this time. We're asked to don't own a
    collection anymore; "own" the ability to stream it
    from a digital shelf in the cloud. I might need go
    through the stages of virtual grief.
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