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Old 05-30-2014, 01:01 AM
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I'm in a big Film Noir mood and I'm looking for a list of movies that are out on BD. I know The Maltese Falcon, Shadow of a Doubt, Double Indemnity, Touch of Evil, The Third Man, Rafifi, and Strangers on a Train are out on BD, but what else?
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Old 05-30-2014, 01:38 AM
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Don't know of a specific site that lists them, but off the top of my head (well, technically had to put some thought into it and I'm sure I'm missing a bunch)

Scarlet Street (a personal favorite that's simply phenomenal)
Strangers in the Night (another absolutely remarkable noir)
The Night of the Hunter (simply the best of the best)
The Big Combo (which I totally love!)
The Big Heat (ditto!)
The Post Man Always Rings Twice
Ministry of Fear
The 39 Steps
Kiss Me Deadly
The Naked Kiss
Force of Evil
They Made Me a Fugitive
The Stranger
The Red House
Rebecca
Rope
Laura or better yet, take your pick from anything in the Hitchcock collection
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:32 AM
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Wow, this is going to be harder than I thought to choose from. BTW, why is The Big Heat so expensive when it has no special features? I expect a price like that from Criterion, but it does not look like it is one of their movies.

Is Rope the same one that is in the Hitchcock collection? If so, is it really considered Film Noir even though it is in color?
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:21 AM
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Wow, this is going to be harder than I thought to choose from. BTW, why is The Big Heat so expensive when it has no special features? I expect a price like that from Criterion, but it does not look like it is one of their movies.
The Big Heat is out of print. As with all Twilight Time titles, it was limited to 3000 units, and the scalpers are charging exorbitant prices now that it has "sold out."

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Is Rope the same one that is in the Hitchcock collection? If so, is it really considered Film Noir even though it is in color?
There are many elements that make a movie a film noir. The look is part of it, but not the whole. It's mostly about the delivery of content, in particular the worldview. Darkness not just in visuals but in tone, where cynicism and sexuality are key.

Funny as it sounds, and although they are rare, there are Technicolor noirs. Niagara with Marilyn Monroe (and Joseph Cotten!) looks like this:



The cinematography is very noir-y at times (I chose the cap above specifically for that reason) but there are also shots like this:



And most of it is somewhere in-between like this:



Monroe's character, Rose, is unfaithfully married to poor, old, depressed George, played by Cotten. Rose and her boyfriend plan to kill George while at the falls and make it look like a suicide, but fate (noirs often deal in fatalism) has other plans.

The problem is, although there are certain touchstones by which most measure, film noir is an incredibly ill-defined term and few have been able to agree on every film's noir-ness.

The term is (obviously) a french import, originally used by European critics to classify the lower budget crime melodramas being made in America during and shortly after WWII. But in the 70 some odd years since, its use has expanded to a number of films that aren't really crime melodramas, weren't made between 1941-1958, etc... but to what end? At some point are we going to be classifying any black and white feature with dark elements a noir?

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Old 05-30-2014, 04:09 PM
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Do you think anyone else will ever release The Big Sleep? Like Criterion maybe? It just seems so messed up that these Twilight Time guys are allowed to do this crap.

BTW, any word on Bogart's The Big Chill, Key Largo, or In A Lonely Place coming to BD?
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Do you think anyone else will ever release The Big Sleep? Like Criterion maybe? I just seems so messed up that these Twilight Time guys are allowed to do this crap.
Unfortunately, Twilight Time has exclusive distribution rights to The Big Heat for 3 years. They may re-negotiate with Sony in 2015 when the those rights expire, and print another 3000 discs. They may not.. And there's just as much chance no one else -- not even Criterion -- will grab the film either.

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BTW, any word on Bogart's The Big Chill, Key Largo, or In A Lonely Place coming to BD?
I assume you mean The Big Sleep? The Big Chill is a yuppie dramedy... which, incidentally, is coming from Criterion this year! There was some talk of The Big Sleep coming to Blu-ray in 2014, but nothing official from Warner yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it got pushed back. If they hold off until Q3/Q4 of 2015, they can sneak out a 70th anniversary (which would technically be in 2016, but studios like to be weirdly wrong when it comes to stuff like that).

I'm holding out hope for on an HD upgrade of the pretty terrific Bogie and Bacall DVD set from a few years back, which had The Big Sleep, Dark Passage, Key Largo, and To Have and Have Not. Frustratingly, for reasons that depress me, WB seems more content with releasing horrid shit like Dreamcatcher than actual classics.
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Do you think anyone else will ever release The Big Sleep? Like Criterion maybe? It just seems so messed up that these Twilight Time guys are allowed to do this crap.
Crap like pressing a Blu-ray that the content owner had no interest in releasing itself, and selling it to fans who enthusiastically bought it up? That crap?

What terrible jerks they are for selling a product that people bought! How dare they be allowed to get away with that? How dare they?
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Sunset Boulevard is out on BD too, right?
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These are the existing or announced titles in the US market of which I am aware. Some may not be considered noir by everyone. I'm sure I'm missing a few.

Cohen
Two Men in Manhattan (1959)
The Criterion Collection:
Ace in the Hole (aka The Big Carnival) (1951)
Diabolique (1955)
Foreign Correspondent (1940)
High and Low (1963)
Killer's Kiss (1955)
The Killing (1956)
Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
Ministry of Fear (1944)
The Naked Kiss (1964)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Rififi (1955)
Riot in Cell Block 11 (1954)
Shock Corridor (1963)
Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
The Third Man (1949)
Film Chest
Kansas City Confidential (1952)
The Red House (1947)
The Strange Love of Martha Ivers (1946)
Fox
Boomerang! (1947)
Laura (1944)
Niagara (1953)
Panic in the Streets (1950)
Image
Suddenly (1956)
Kino
The Hitch-Hiker (1953)
Scarlet Street (1945)
The Stranger (1946)
They Made Me a Fugitive (1947)
MGM
Notorious (1946)
Rebecca (1940)
Spellbound (1945)
Olive Films
Appointment With Danger (1951)
Arch of Triumph (1948)
Beware My Lovely (1952)
The Big Combo (1955)
Body and Soul (1947)
Caught (1949)
Champion (1949)
City That Never Sleeps (1953)
Cloak and Dagger (1946)
Crashout (1955)
Cry Danger (1951)
Cry Vengeance (1954)
Dark City (1950)
The Dark Mirror (1946)
A Double Life (1947)
The Enforcer (1951)
The File on Thelma Jordon (1950)
Force of Evil (1948)
Hell's Five Hours (1958)
Hell's Half Acre (1954)
Hoodlum Empire (1952)
Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye (1950)
The Lost Moment (1947)
Man-Trap (1961)
No Man of Her Own (1950)
No Man's Woman (1955)
Outrage (1950)
Plunder Road (1957)
Private Hell 36 (1954)
Pursued (1947)
Ramrod (1947)
The Red Menace (1949)
Rope of Sand (1949)
Ruthless (1948)
Secret Beyond the Door (1947)
Shack Out On 101 (1953)
Sleep, My Love (1948)
The Sound of Fury (aka Try and Get Me) (1950)
The Strange Affair of Uncle Harry (aka Guilty of Murder) (1945)
Strangers In The Night (1944)
The Trap (1959)
Try And Get Me (1950)
Union Station (1950)
World for Ransom (1954)
TCM Vault
The Lady from Shanghai (1949)
Twilight Time (some of these are out of print)
All the King's Men (1949)
The Big Heat (1953)
Experiment in Terror (1962)
Leave Her to Heaven (1945)
Man in the Dark (1953) - this one is 3D in addition to 2D
Swamp Water (1941)
Violent Saturday (1955)
Universal
Cape Fear (1962)
Double Indemnity (1944)
The Lost Weekend (1945)
Rope (1948)
Saboteur (1942)
Shadow of a Doubt (1943)
Touch of Evil (1958)
Warner Brothers
The Maltese Falcon (1941)
Mildred Pierce (1945)
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)
Strangers on a Train (1951)
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)
White Heat (1949)

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Old 05-31-2014, 08:13 PM
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Twilight Time released man in the dark 3D/2D NOT Inferno.
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