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Old 04-16-2014, 05:19 PM
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:09 PM
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Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for 4k transfers, but is "re-mastering" Spider-Man 3 in 4K really necessary? My original blu-ray release of it looks stellar already. Pretty much demo-worthy. I'd rather see Sony put their effort in re-mastering other movies from their catologue in 4K to be honest.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:14 PM
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Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for 4k transfers, but is "re-mastering" Spider-Man 3 in 4K really necessary? My original blu-ray release of it looks stellar already. Pretty much demo-worthy. I'd rather see Sony put their effort in re-mastering other movies from their catologue in 4K to be honest.
Spider-Man (the recent movie franchise) has always been a big deal for Sony. They give those movies lots of support. I believe at some point those films were bundled with Playstations, and the Playstation 3 font is the same as the Spider-Man movie font.

So this doesn't surprise me. Seems unnecessary, but not a surprise.
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The original release was already downconverted from a 4K master (with a ton of baked in 2K CGI). Whatever improvement there may be will be imperceptible to anyone other than the screenshot analysts.

And this 4K re-release drops extras.

It's also Spider-Man 3.

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The original release was already downconverted from a 4K master (with a ton of baked in 2K CGI).
Makes sense that it was filmed in 4k, and Sony is just taking titles like that and rereleasing them under a 4k banner.

But what about that 2k CGI? How would that look on 4k playback? I mean, I know this is the BD we are talking about, but if they release this film in the actual 4k format, what then? Would they have to recreate the CGI effects in 4k? Or selectively upconvert? It seems like a pain.
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Makes sense that it was filmed in 4k, and Sony is just taking titles like that and rereleasing them under a 4k banner.

But what about that 2k CGI? How would that look on 4k playback? I mean, I know this is the BD we are talking about, but if they release this film in the actual 4k format, what then? Would they have to recreate the CGI effects in 4k? Or selectively upconvert? It seems like a pain.
Spider-Man 3 (and Spider-Man 2 for that matter) was shot on 35mm film and finished at 4K via a Digital Intermediate.

The effects are already upscaled within the production workflow, "baked" into the final 4K DI master.

Almost all modern blockbusters have 2K CG elements. Even The Amazing Spider-Man, which was shot digitally in 5K on RED, rendered CGI at 2K. Why do studios do this? It's cheaper to render CG at 2K.

Will this cause problems, later, as exhibition resolution increases? Maybe. At some point, the human eye cannot perceive an increase in detail in any meaningful sense.

Of more concern are the films, like Avatar, shot natively at 2K, or the unfortunate early HD digital video productions like Star Wars Ep II & III, which are stuck at 1080p forever.

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or the unfortunate early HD digital video productions like Star Wars Ep II & 3, which are stuck at 1080p forever.
That's the least of their problems! :P

Just more examples as to the value of actual film. Such as when Criterion can scan a 2k or 4k restoration from a 50 year old movie, but a movie from 15 years ago is stuck at 2k forever.
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Well, this discussion kind of flew over my head!

I know the 'basics' of what you guys are talking about. 4K > 2K > 1080p. If someone could just tell me briefly, what exactly IS 2K and 4K? I know 1080p has 1080 lines of resolution (basically), so does 2K and 4K mean 2000 and 4000 lines of resolution respectively? That's what I always assumed it meant. Just wondering if I'm (even somewhat) correct. Thanks guys.
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Well, this discussion kind of flew over my head!

I know the 'basics' of what you guys are talking about. 4K > 2K > 1080p. If someone could just tell me briefly, what exactly IS 2K and 4K? I know 1080p has 1080 lines of resolution (basically), so does 2K and 4K mean 2000 and 4000 lines of resolution respectively? That's what I always assumed it meant. Just wondering if I'm (even somewhat) correct. Thanks guys.
1080p = 1920x1080 pixels
2k = 2048x1080
4k = 4096x2160
Ultra HD (aka "4k UHD") = 3840x2160

"2k" and "4k" are theatrical standards. 1080p and Ultra HD are home video standards.
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