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Luke has reviewed 'Fruitvale Station.' He says the film is worth seeing at least once. Here's why...

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Disagreed entirely.

This is irresponsible filmmaking of the worst kind; something that is happy to lie and skew history to make a statement.

It's also not something that was just done out of the blue by a young indie filmmaker, it's a film that Forest Whitaker was intimately involved in and one can't help but think that his opinion and view of the sad events very much influenced every single bit of what was on screen.

Basic logic should dictate that a movie should be judged on its own merits. But when a movie like Fruitvale Station demands that it be taken as a political statement, there is no reason to not point out the eggregious dishonesties that it contains.

Everything in this movie is calculated, even down to the presentation of the director. He isn't from the same circumstances, not even close. He lived in Oakland until he was eight before moving to Richmond, California. By all accounts, he lived as far away from the same world as Oscar Grant did.

Then there's the depiction of Grant. Helping out dogs (something the director has admitted to being a complete and utter fabrication), his grandma and making good with his girl. Being a good father. Man, he's just a great guy. Even the ridiculous scene of him throwing away his bag of weed - utter fabrication, admitted by the director. Even the poster for the film shows Grant walking towards the station holding hands with his little girl. Ugh.

But no mention of Grant being a drug dealer who had already been once tased by the police for pulling a gun after being stopped. No mention that the autopsy revealed that despite him being on probation during the shooting, that he was drunk and on drugs. Nope, that wouldn't work with the agenda.

There is no excuse to the shooting. It was a series of utter failures. But a movie like this, fabricating situations and refusing to even attempt to provide a historical document of any kind - other than a soapbox for shouting - is worthless. It removes context, destroys communication and only does so for the hope of awards and recognition because it's the easiest kind of manipulation. Emotional. Grant having a dance party on the train? Fabrication. The cops had been called because there had been reported violence and fighting on the line. That same evening, a gang member had pulled a gun on the police patrolling the line. The video that begins the film? Edited down and even questioned by Grants friend, who testified in court that the shooting had been a horrible and ungodly mistake. There are numerous statements that place the officer immediately collapsing and being in shock upon realizing what had happened.

Oh, but you wouldn't know that from the film, where Mehreshle (the officer who shot Grant) is depicted as a composite, fictional cop called Caruso. Played with utter menace by Kevin Durand.

But no, for the film it's far more effective to present this as a clear cut monster appearing out of nowhere to attack what is a man on his way to sainthood.

Even worse, the film ending with the words "Justice for Oscar", as if it's hoping to be some kind of a wake up call for the justice system (even after the officer had been convicted and served his sentence). It's an egotistic and vile final nail on the coffin and easily makes this the worst film I've seen in a long damn time.

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I told you that you'd hate my review!
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Sounds like this is one of those films that just pisses people off by the time the credits role.. No thanks..
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Sounds like this is one of those films that just pisses people off by the time the credits role.. No thanks..
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Sounds like this is one of those films that just pisses people off by the time the credits role.. No thanks..
I was pissed off after the film's opening (the real footage), but not after the movie's ending.
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Some people. Not all though. Not nearly all.
Just people who can see past the Daily Mail-esque exploitation of horrific events.
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So, the film's purpose isn't to have people riot on the streets after watching it? Again, I haven't seen this movie nor do I know the ending... So it's a legitimate question, considering the concerns SpiderJerusalem brought up.
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Disagreed entirely.

This is irresponsible filmmaking of the worst kind; something that is happy to lie and skew history to make a statement.

It's also not something that was just done out of the blue by a young indie filmmaker, it's a film that Forest Whitaker was intimately involved in and one can't help but think that his opinion and view of the sad events very much influenced every single bit of what was on screen.

Basic logic should dictate that a movie should be judged on its own merits. But when a movie like Fruitvale Station demands that it be taken as a political statement, there is no reason to not point out the eggregious dishonesties that it contains.

Everything in this movie is calculated, even down to the presentation of the director. He isn't from the same circumstances, not even close. He lived in Oakland until he was eight before moving to Richmond, California. By all accounts, he lived as far away from the same world as Oscar Grant did.

Then there's the depiction of Grant. Helping out dogs (something the director has admitted to being a complete and utter fabrication), his grandma and making good with his girl. Being a good father. Man, he's just a great guy. Even the ridiculous scene of him throwing away his bag of weed - utter fabrication, admitted by the director. Even the poster for the film shows Grant walking towards the station holding hands with his little girl. Ugh.

But no mention of Grant being a drug dealer who had already been once tased by the police for pulling a gun after being stopped. No mention that the autopsy revealed that despite him being on probation during the shooting, that he was drunk and on drugs. Nope, that wouldn't work with the agenda.

There is no excuse to the shooting. It was a series of utter failures. But a movie like this, fabricating situations and refusing to even attempt to provide a historical document of any kind - other than a soapbox for shouting - is worthless. It removes context, destroys communication and only does so for the hope of awards and recognition because it's the easiest kind of manipulation. Emotional. Grant having a dance party on the train? Fabrication. The cops had been called because there had been reported violence and fighting on the line. That same evening, a gang member had pulled a gun on the police patrolling the line. The video that begins the film? Edited down and even questioned by Grants friend, who testified in court that the shooting had been a horrible and ungodly mistake. There are numerous statements that place the officer immediately collapsing and being in shock upon realizing what had happened.

Oh, but you wouldn't know that from the film, where Mehreshle (the officer who shot Grant) is depicted as a composite, fictional cop called Caruso. Played with utter menace by Kevin Durand.

But no, for the film it's far more effective to present this as a clear cut monster appearing out of nowhere to attack what is a man on his way to sainthood.

Even worse, the film ending with the words "Justice for Oscar", as if it's hoping to be some kind of a wake up call for the justice system (even after the officer had been convicted and served his sentence). It's an egotistic and vile final nail on the coffin and easily makes this the worst film I've seen in a long damn time.
Gosh shutup. Talk about someone who completely missed the point of the movie. The movie was to show the life of Oscar Grant it was to show his final day before his death. The movie accomplished that quite well. Complaining about all that other nonsense you are complaining about sounds ridiculous.
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Gosh shutup. Talk about someone who completely missed the point of the movie. The movie was to show the life of Oscar Grant it was to show his final day before his death. The movie accomplished that quite well. Complaining about all that other nonsense you are complaining about sounds ridiculous.
If the life they were showing was utterly fabricated, how do you figure that the movie accomplished it quite well?
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