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Old 08-05-2013, 04:26 PM
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Default How Much Longer Will There Be Blu-ray Discs? (article mentions format expires 2016?)

Even with a 4K QUAD HD optical format that possible might launch in 2016+, I still think that Blu-ray 1080P will be the mainstream optical format and the new 4K QUAD HD optical disc format will be more like the Laserdisc format which had around 2 million loyal supporters that wanted the best picture and sound quality.

I disagree with Blu-ray having an expiration date of 2015 or 2016. Even the 4K QUAD optical format would need a minimum of 5 years under ideal comditions to completely replace Blu-ray. I still think Blu-ray will last another 10 years as VUDU and other streaming providers keep eating away at both DVD and Blu-ray optical disc sells.


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Julie, I agree with you that the best picture on the market comes from a Blu-ray high-def disc. The Blu-ray picture is not compressed the way it is on cable and satellite, meaning the picture is not squeezed to create room for other channels and services.

However, there's no question that streaming -- watching video over the Internet -- is very convenient. You sacrifice some picture quality but you don't have to order the disc by mail or go to a store to rent or buy it. You just hit a button and your movie appears on your screen.

Consequently, I suspect that the Blu-ray high-def disc has an expiration date, probably in 2015 or 2016. At that point, I think you'll see very few Blu-ray discs released for new movies. Instead, they will be made available nearly exclusively on streaming or Video on Demand.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:16 PM
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When was dvd set to expire? More than half the stuff I want to buy still only comes out on dvd.

Regarding streaming replacing the format - BS, plain and simple. It too is very compressed.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:52 PM
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Uh no thanks. When they stop making physical discs for movies, I stop paying to own movies. As simple as that. So if they want to continue making money from me, they need to continue giving me a product I can touch, look at, display, etc.
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Uh no thanks. When they stop making physical discs for movies, I stop paying to own movies. As simple as that. So if they want to continue making money from me, they need to continue giving me a product I can touch, look at, display, etc.
I AGREE COMPLETELY. I was looking at getting Microsoft Office 2013 and am facing the exact issue. All the versions out there are cloud-based, except the one single version, the super-duper professional version for $500. I'm like, Really, the disc is costing $300 more? So - like your comment about movies - I want to legally own it and refuse to own the cloud version. Still looking for legal options first. I want '13, not '010. In the end though, whoknows. They're already trying cloud based for Windows O/S. So what do you do with a terminally broken PC they needs a fresh OS installed?
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I AGREE COMPLETELY. I was looking at getting Microsoft Office 2013 and am facing the exact issue. All the versions out there are cloud-based, except the one single version, the super-duper professional version for $500. I'm like, Really, the disc is costing $300 more? So - like your comment about movies - I want to legally own it and refuse to own the cloud version. Still looking for legal options first. I want '13, not '010. In the end though, whoknows. They're already trying cloud based for Windows O/S. So what do you do with a terminally broken PC they needs a fresh OS installed?
There are legitimate disc-based versions of Microsoft Office 2013 out there - although not readily available to everyone (I have one - there's a "Home Use" program that some companies have with Microsoft ... essentially if you buy enough licenses for a corporation, they throw in the ability to let workers buy a copy to use at home for around $10 - and it's the full-fledged version.)
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All you need to do is look at the byline on that article. Swanni is notorious for being on the wrong side of any debate and dead wrong in almost every "prediction" he makes. If he says Blu-ray will expire in 2016, that means it will last for decades.
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This is why I buy Criterion titles.

Why?

Well...compression is a pain, and will always make streaming look sub-par to a physical disc. Even with better tech throughout, you can still experience connection fluctuations. I don't see THAT being resolved in the future. Not for everyone.

So why did I mention Criterion? The effort put into restoring those films for blu-ray, and adding suplements (that wouldn't come with streaming) means you get the best package of that movie. It may be the last package of that movie if a 4k versions is not released. Many Criterion titles were restored using just a 2k scan. This means, unless they went and rescaned these negatives and did that whole touch up process AGAIN, that version of 'The Man Who Knew Too Much' is the best you are going to see.

Sure, if any publisher would make good use of 4k releases, it would be Criterion. They did scan many older films at 4k...but was the touch up done at 4k resolution? Or at 2k? Did they future-proof, and plan on issuing 4k releases?

My rambling point is this...Criterions seem to represent the best version of the films they release, and they do not quadruple dip (like, say, Terminator 2). So those discs are a sound investment.

Stuff like 'Crank', or 'The Day After Tomorrow'...while I love my blu-rays of those films...I can imagine being just as happy streaming them. Even if my wonky internet leads to a soft picture now and then.
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When was dvd set to expire? More than half the stuff I want to buy still only comes out on dvd.

Regarding streaming replacing the format - BS, plain and simple. It too is very compressed.
More than half the stuff you want to buy comes exclusively to DVD? What kind of stuff are you buying?
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More than half the stuff you want to buy comes exclusively to DVD? What kind of stuff are you buying?
If you're referring to Porn, I wouldn't know but I am sure they're doing HD these days.

The two latest ones, TMNT Season 3 (shot on film??) and Dragons - Riders of Berk Parts 1 & 2 (Was this not rendered in HD? Amazon is offering VOD in HD for this.) I also just ordered NYPD Blue Seasons 5 & 6 from Amazon UK, once again, was shot on film or hd video. Almost forgot - also a recent Pokemon movie.
A few of the cheesy monster movies I recently bought also on dvd only, a couple were SyFy originals, a few others were similar style.

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Blu-Ray has plenty of time left in it. We need DVD to die before we even start thinking about it. My local DVD store clearly shows that DVD is still going great guns. Personally I don't want to buy them, but sometimes there is no choice for the classic TV series.
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