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Old 11-20-2007, 02:01 PM
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Can someone who owns the entire collection give me an idea of the PQ on Die Hard 1.0? I'm really curious.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:17 PM
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4.5 stars should be highly recommended o.o
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HiRez View Post
I'm so conflicted on this one. I really want to add this to the collection, but I don't like my John McClane all watered down. It's inevitablet hat Fox will release the Unrated version on BD, but who knows how long that'll be! HELP!!!
I feel they same way. Its not quite the die hard movie until you hear THE WHOLE yippee kay yhay. You can get the first three, but I guess you should wait on the third. On the waiting part I have noticed that no high-def has been released for adding on a high def track, or another version of their film yet. The studios just continue to put out movies finished or unfinished. They seem to just try to stick to release date. Maybe they should follow Disney's lead and not put out a movie until all the bells and whistles are ready. The P.O.C. and trilogy and hopefully the Jerry Bruckhemier trio, "The Rock", "Crimson Tide" and "Con Air".
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default unrated only

I was appalled when I was sitting in the Theatre watching this movie because it was obviously 'cut' and re-edited for PG-13. Its unmistakable when he is swearing because the onscreen lip movements dont match the voice, especially with a picture filling your entire field of vision. Also noticable major edits whenever anything 'good' was about to happen.

To be sure, I felt like I was being slapped in the face, because I paid money to see this in the theatres in its 'original' form, only to get a TV re-edit.

When I watch movies in the theatre, the first thing I think of now, is how good the movie will be when I finally get it on home release. This movie was on my 'must-buy' list, simply because I was looking forward to all the unnecessary cuts I missed at the theatre. Alas, I am not buying this boo-ray, nor am I optimistic it will be corrected for YEARS to come with this now in the 'catalogue'.

So sad.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:48 PM
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I just watched the unrated version on the DVD and it does feel quite R-rated. Not watered down at all with lots of profanity. The decision to make the BR PG-13 forced me to watch the DVD and forego purchasing the BR. How the review can recommend it is beyond me...

Is it just me or does John McClane feel like too much of a superhero in this one. Slamming into cars head first and basically getting right up, jumping off exploding jets, and so on? The every-man quality of the character is missing in this one.

I also felt like the story was all over the place. The first two movies were confined and more claustrophobic. This one and the third one are just all over the place.

There are also lots of plot questionables in this one. It felt like they had to add a lot of ADR in post to make it make sense. "Oh, the turbines must be in the basement" or whatever for example, even though there is really no reason for them to have this information. There is lots of dialog that feels dubbed in after the fact to explain something that wasn't clear, or didn't make sense.

I also found it a bit racist and sexist. Kung Fu is somehow cheating, or at least no match for good-old American fisticuffs? They sort of ran into the same problem as Lethal Weapon 4. In that film Jet Li is so superior to the protagonists that you want him to win.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fbm2000 View Post
I just purchased the Die Hard Collection (Box Set) on Blue-Ray. This is one of my most highly anticipated set of films to own on Blue-Ray. However, I'm experiencing issues with all the movies.

Live Free or Die Hard I put in and noticed a flicker on the Warning Screen. The first actual video to come up is the Simpsons Movie Trailer. The trailer had video, but no audio. At the end of the trailer the screen went to black and nothing ever came up. There was no loading icon or nothing. Just blackness. I did this a couple of times and the same thing. I tried to hit the next button on the remote and it froze up my player.

Die Hard would not load. I had in my player for 20 minutes and it would not load.

Die Hard 2 and 3 loaded the first time I put in the player, but now when I put in neither film will load.

I own a Samsung BD-P1000. I have the latest firmware update from October which was a firmware update to help play FOX BR DVDs (Day After Tomorrow and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer). I own both of those movies and they play fine. I also own 4 other Fox BR titles, and do not experience any issues with those as well.

Is there an issue with this Box Set? I spent a $100 for a Box Set that will not play. I'm tired of hearing about firmware updates, especially when I just did one a month ago to help play FOX titles. I don't have any problems with any other BR titles from any of the other studios. Also, a year into the format and there are still issues like this.

I'm getting to the point where I might just have to stick with Standard DVD for my FOX titles if this is going to be an ongoing issue.
I wonder if this in response to BD+ on Day After Tomorrow being hacked. If every movie is going to require a firmware upgrade, Fox and BD might as well throw in the towel. Joe public will not deal with this non-sense.

I, too, am waiting for the unrated cut. About the only way in which I will purchase this watered down version is if they were to blow it out for $10 or less on one of their sales. That's sad, considering that I would have payed full price for unrated version on Blu-ray.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:41 PM
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I agree. It's beyond me that with the small amount of hardware out there why FOX can not test their product prior to release. If there is an issue that can be fixed with an update, let the manufacturer's know in advance so an update can be issued right away. But no, lets let consumer's drop their hard earn money on product that will not work, and let them wait until a firmware is issued.

I've been keeping my eye out on the web, but I have not seen any other postings of people having problems with these films. I know I can't be the only one.

I just went ahead and purchased the Unrated version on standard DVD. So much better. Not as violent has the other films, but the Unrated version does have more blood shed from people being shot. The primary differnce is the language. This is McClane we grew up with and love. If Samsung ever releases a firmware update to fix the loading problems I'm having I think I'll just buy the first 3 films and wait until the Unrated is released on Blue-Ray.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:42 PM
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i was planning on buying the box set but i hate thae packaging so i'm going to buy 1/3/4(i need to change my sig) and buy 2 sometime later, as for the unrated version ill probably make my brother rent the DVD and put it on my computer and buy the unrated BD if it ever comes out
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default I am glad that the specs are solid but...

So, the BD is not Unrated. It figures that I just find this out now after ordering the Collection this morning...good thing I got a deal...

I am getting sick of these SD releases being better than the HD releases with less space. What sense does this make?

I don't know if I shouldn't have abandoned my SD DVD collection so soon...

Great so now I am going to have to rent the Unrated Edition & watch it upconverted...can't have everything I guess.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:54 PM
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good to hear that its a good disk, im just waiting for the review for the whole collection!
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