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Attebery 03-15-2011 06:03 PM

'Fair Game' - High-Def Digest Review
 
Don't go looking for Cindy Crawford of William Baldwin here. No, no. Instead of lines like, "Hey, if you need a clean shirt or something, better do it now" allowing for flashes of supemodel nudity, this is the tale of the Valerie Plame scandal, where the raciest dialogue probably involves the term "yellow cake." This 'Fair Game,' unlike the 1995 think-piece, is also quite good. With excellent video and audio, and a great extra, this true life drama is recommended.

Full review here:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/4607/fairgame.html

Hunk Golden 03-16-2011 12:02 AM

Nice review. I loved this when I saw it at the cheap theater. Great cast. They did an excellent job with it. Deserved a bigger audience. Anything war related (esp Iraq war) usually struggles to find an audience. This deserved a better fate.

I bet the commentary will be a good listen. Wish there were more extras, but that at least seems worthy.

Wish it wasn't another 2 weeks until release date.

shadowkt 03-16-2011 04:59 AM

Considering Richard Armitage was the source for Robert Novak I will pass on this movie. I would've been mildly interested if he was portrayed somewhere in this film, but he isn't.

cupboy 03-16-2011 04:33 PM

Seems like every other movie is "unrated" now. This tells me nothing. What would this movie had been if it was rated? PG-13, R, G, PG or what?

damonous 03-19-2011 09:07 AM

First off, I just want to say that I'm glad I finally managed to see this movie in 2nd-run at the theater and can't wait for the home video release. It is an incredibly well-acted, emotional and inspiring movie. It's also amazing how much Penn & Watts resemble the real-life Wilson & Plame.

One of the things that the movie points out that I had overlooked during the actual scandal was how much an American patriot Joe Wilson was/is, with a distinguished career as acting ambassador to Iraq during the first Gulf War. Ironic, indeed, that he was a war hero (per Bush-Senior's administration) and an untrustworthy loser (per Bush-Junior's administration).

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronPeck-review
This is the kind of movie that if true, should make everyone mad. ...

...The movie does plow through the facts rather quickly, and features Scooter Libby and Karl Rove conniving in their offices like Pinky and The Brain. Is that what really happened? I don't know. What we do know is that these people who were saying, all along, that there were no WMDs were right. Saddam didn't have them, even though that's the reason that was given for the war. ...

...Like I said before, I honestly don't know exactly how everything transpired, and whether the movie is right or wrong in its portrayal. However, if it's accurate, and especially if lives were lost when Plame's cover was blown, then we should all demand an apology and accountability.

Aaron, you're being much too 'apologetic' here (or maybe, I should say, trying to cover all bases by pleasing the masses). It's not like a few simple Internet searches couldn't answer the question, "Is it true?" While, obviously, as a dramatized re-enactment every minute of the film cannot be exactly as how real life occurred, ...the major (astonishing) revelations of the film can be completely considered "TRUE".

Libby was indeed convicted of a felony, for his involvement in the scandal:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17479718/ns/politics/
So, the movie just depicts Rove & Libby "conniving in their offices like Pinky and The Brain" because the conviction & evidence certainly supports that. The movie doesn't go so far as to depict Cheney or Bush involved in the "conniving"...although any intelligent person can 'read between the lines' (without any nudge from the film), --especially considering that:

After-the-fact, Bush granted Libby clemency, so that Libby didn't have to serve a single day in jail for his conviction:
http://articles.cnn.com/2007-07-03/p..._s=PM:POLITICS

And, of course, that wasn't enough for some people, so people like Cheney were actually perturbed that Bush didn't give Libby a complete white-wash of his felony record by granting a Pardon:
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/01/18/n...for-libby.html


...Mad, yet?:wink:


Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowkt (Post 2141667)
Considering Richard Armitage was the source for Robert Novak I will pass on this movie. I would've been mildly interested if he was portrayed somewhere in this film, but he isn't.

Armitage was only 1 of 2 sources, and only Libby was charged & convicted of the felony. ....So, what? --you wanted the movie to fictionalize and show Armitage? --So then people could have a valid case of saying, 'The movie is fiction! --There's no real proof that Armitage did that; they're dragging his name through the mud'.:doh2:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2010...e-plame-wilson

paaron46 03-19-2011 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damonous (Post 2143296)
First off, I just want to say that I'm glad I finally managed to see this movie in 2nd-run at the theater and can't wait for the home video release. It is an incredibly well-acted, emotional and inspiring movie. It's also amazing how much Penn & Watts resemble the real-life Wilson & Plame.

One of the things that the movie points out that I had overlooked during the actual scandal was how much an American patriot Joe Wilson was/is, with a distinguished career as acting ambassador to Iraq during the first Gulf War. Ironic, indeed, that he was a war hero (per Bush-Senior's administration) and an untrustworthy loser (per Bush-Junior's administration).


Aaron, you're being much too 'apologetic' here (or maybe, I should say, trying to cover all bases by pleasing the masses). It's not like a few simple Internet searches couldn't answer the question, "Is it true?" While, obviously, as a dramatized re-enactment every minute of the film cannot be exactly as how real life occurred, ...the major (astonishing) revelations of the film can be completely considered "TRUE".

Libby was indeed convicted of a felony, for his involvement in the scandal:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17479718/ns/politics/
So, the movie just depicts Rove & Libby "conniving in their offices like Pinky and The Brain" because the conviction & evidence certainly supports that. The movie doesn't go so far as to depict Cheney or Bush involved in the "conniving"...although any intelligent person can 'read between the lines' (without any nudge from the film), --especially considering that:

After-the-fact, Bush granted Libby clemency, so that Libby didn't have to serve a single day in jail for his conviction:
http://articles.cnn.com/2007-07-03/p..._s=PM:POLITICS

And, of course, that wasn't enough for some people, so people like Cheney were actually perturbed that Bush didn't give Libby a complete white-wash of his felony record by granting a Pardon:
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/01/18/n...for-libby.html


...Mad, yet?:wink:



Armitage was only 1 of 2 sources, and only Libby was charged & convicted of the felony. ....So, what? --you wanted the movie to fictionalize and show Armitage? --So then people could have a valid case of saying, 'The movie is fiction! --There's no real proof that Armitage did that; they're dragging his name through the mud'.:doh2:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2010...e-plame-wilson

Admittedly, yes, I was a little vague and maybe too politically correct. I know that the hardcore facts are right (e.g. - Libby being convicted, Bush commuting his sentence, etc). I was only saying all that because many times these movies take dramatic liberties with how stuff actually went down and how people were actually acting and if certain conversations actually took place.

The commentary with Plame and Wilson is very insightful on this though. On more than a few occasions she talks about how "that conversation never took place, but it's indicative of many conversations I had." Also, they admit that the scenes with Rove and Libby are thought up, because they don't actually know how they interacted with each other.

What I was trying to say is I know what happened, but I'm not sure if it happened exactly how the movie portrays.

timbobarry 03-30-2011 12:39 PM

I can believe the stuff going on at the CIA because afterall, that is where Plane could see everything. I just dont buy the scenes of Libby and Rove in the White House. Somehow, they magically knew what happened on that side.

I do feel Cheney had a bigger role in this and shouldve been at fault. Not saying this is totally true but reading Bush's book (it's his point of view), he talks about how Cheney wanted Libby to get a full pardon. Bush had independent lawyers look into it seeing if the judgement fit the crime. They came back saying they couldn't see any reason to give him a full pardon. Bush then told Cheney he would not give him a pardon which pissed him on. Cheney told Bush that he left a man wounded on the field (something of that effect). They rarely talked during the rest of the administration.

paaron46 03-30-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timbobarry (Post 2148631)
I can believe the stuff going on at the CIA because afterall, that is where Plane could see everything. I just dont buy the scenes of Libby and Rove in the White House. Somehow, they magically knew what happened on that side.

I do feel Cheney had a bigger role in this and shouldve been at fault. Not saying this is totally true but reading Bush's book (it's his point of view), he talks about how Cheney wanted Libby to get a full pardon. Bush had independent lawyers look into it seeing if the judgement fit the crime. They came back saying they couldn't see any reason to give him a full pardon. Bush then told Cheney he would not give him a pardon which pissed him on. Cheney told Bush that he left a man wounded on the field (something of that effect). They rarely talked during the rest of the administration.

This is discussed in the audio commentary. They acknowledge that they have no idea what actually happened, and creative license was taken during those scenes.

Turrican4D 06-01-2011 10:08 AM

Awful PQ.

They should put the Red One into a hole full of crap and forget about it.

No blacks, no detail, way too processed looking picture... sucks.


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