[HDM-GHANDI]

Man finds tool(fire, bone hammer)
Man uses tool(evolution to stations in space)
Tool abused by man (Man programs tool; tool disregards life for safety sake)
Man alone without tool (evolve rolling, rolling, rolling)- starchild(to spirit)
But spirit was always there for man, he finally loosed his training wheels at the end of physicality.

<my take>

[STR8UP&DOWN]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Um...uh...what?

Models ... smaller scale spaceships, etc.

And CGI ... computer-generated imagery ... you know, not real.

[Kosty]

It was the last major model based pre CGI film IIRC.

For pitys sake, breadkdown and watch the Blu-ray 2001 first. The movie kinda makes sense then.

[STR8UP&DOWN]

Originally Posted by Kosty

It was the last major model based pre CGI film IIRC.

For pitys sake, breadkdown and watch the Blu-ray 2001 first. The movie kinda makes sense then.

I agree. Watching 2001 is a must, if you plan to watch 2010. If you've seen 2001, then 2010 really does make sense.

P.S. 2010 was made before CGI started being used?

[Josh Z]

Originally Posted by Kosty

It was the last major model based pre CGI film IIRC.

Only if you forget pretty much every science fiction film made during the 1980s.

Originally Posted by STR8UP&DOWN

P.S. 2010 was made before CGI started being used?

2010 was released in 1984. The first movie to use CGI in any significant way was The Abyss in 1989, and even then it was used only for the alien water tentacle. There were far more models and miniatures used in The Abyss than CGI.

[STR8UP&DOWN]

Originally Posted by Josh Z

Only if you forget pretty much every science fiction film made during the 1980s.



2010 was released in 1984. The first movie to use CGI in any significant way was The Abyss in 1989, and even then it was used only for the alien water tentacle. There were far more models and miniatures used in The Abyss than CGI.

Oh, ok. There were some scenes of Jupiter (and/or it's moons) that I thought were CGI.

[ZebraMajor]

Originally Posted by Josh Z

Only if you forget pretty much every science fiction film made during the 1980s.



2010 was released in 1984. The first movie to use CGI in any significant way was The Abyss in 1989, and even then it was used only for the alien water tentacle. There were far more models and miniatures used in The Abyss than CGI.

Josh, what about The Last Starfighter (1984)? If you replaced "significant" with "photorealistic" then I'd agree. But you'll be hard pressed to win an argument claiming TLS didn't use CGI in a significant way.

[cleeve]

Originally Posted by ZebraMajor

Josh, what about The Last Starfighter (1984)? If you replaced "significant" with "photorealistic" then I'd agree. But you'll be hard pressed to win an argument claiming TLS didn't use CGI in a significant way.

According to IMDB, the Last Starfighter was:

"The first movie to do all special effects (except makeup and explosions) on a computer. All shots of spacecraft, space, etc were generated on a Cray X-MP computer."

[Josh Z]

Originally Posted by ZebraMajor

Josh, what about The Last Starfighter (1984)? If you replaced "significant" with "photorealistic" then I'd agree. But you'll be hard pressed to win an argument claiming TLS didn't use CGI in a significant way.

OK, I'll give you that. I'll also throw in Tron for good measure.

Nonetheless, CGI was not used extensively until the '90s. The majority of big FX movies throughout the 80s -- like Return of the Jedi, Dune, Ghostbusters, Cocoon, Aliens, Enemy Mine, Innerspace, Back to the Future 1 & 2, etc. -- had no CGI at all. The process was very expensive, extremely slow to render, and looked very cartoony.

The Abyss was the first movie to achieve photorealistic CGI. Earlier attempts like Tron, Last Starfighter, and Young Sherlock Holmes looked like Atari 2600 graphics overlayed onto the screen. The Abyss was the turning point that started shifting the industry over to CGI.

[Skwege]

I remember the Genesis Sequence in Wrath of Khan being pretty wow for its day. Wasn't that the first fully rendered CGI sequence to appear in a film?