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Old 04-20-2012, 02:13 PM
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Default What Dreams May Come: "New Master Edition" (Japan)

Paging Kannisto.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KIXF-62

I'm very curious to know if this is geniunely a new master that looks better than the American edition from Universal, but I don't want to risk $60 to find out.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:08 AM
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It's hard to say at the moment, there's not information to be found about the details of this release in the internet, I can find just a lot of shop listings for it but no proper reviews. It's apparently on a BD25 and King Records is not always known for great quality, some of their releases are in 1080i and this one is only indicated to be in 1080High-Def on their web page so it might be either p or i.

I may get it and then I can inform more in detail but it'll take a few days
I don't have the U.S. or any other release that I could compare to though.

http://kingeshop.jp/shop/g/gKIXF-62/

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● Duration: single-sided single-layer (16:9 Cinemascope) / Kara -/1080Hi-Def: Specifications ● 61 minutes + 114 minutes video about this story about benefits
● Audio: English ① Japanese dub (DTSHD Master Audio 5.1ch) ② (DTSHD Master Audio stereo)
● Subtitles: Japanese

■ Benefits: Video Collection ① ③ another interview about the making of special effects ending ② ④ ⑥ trailer behind one of the original scene ⑤ (2 types)
■ Benefits: Voice recording the first Japanese dubbing voice [! ;

Leaflet enclosed commentary! «Statement: Lightning Crossbow snow (dry) [movie] analysts»
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I may get it and then I can inform more in detail but it'll take a few days
I don't have the U.S. or any other release that I could compare to though.
No hurry. Just curious if you could find anything out about it.

The American disc looks OK for a Universal catalog title, but it's clearly sourced from an old master with some edge enhancement and DNR issues.

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Duration: single-sided single-layer (16:9 Cinemascope)
The OAR should be 2.35:1.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:26 PM
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In Japanese AR terms Cinemascope usually means 2.35:1, so this 16:9 Cinemascope is probably not wrong AR, stands for 2.35:1 inside a 16:9 container or something like that.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:28 PM
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I got this in the mail today. I'll post details later this week. It looks to me like there are some minor DNR and EE issues on this version as well, so I guess it's not significantly better than U.S. release.
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Has anyone been able to compare the HD DVD with the BD release for this? I've always been curious if this was another Universal title that suffered a little on BD.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:17 AM
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Some screencaps of the Japanese BD:






BD Info scan:
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(JP) What Dreams May Come                                       AVC     1:53:33 20,516,947,968  24,249,937,644  24.09   19.00   DTS-HD Master 5.1 1977Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     WHAT_DREAMS_MAY_COME
Disc Size:      24,249,937,644 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00002.MPLS
Length:                 1:53:33 (h:m:s)
Size:                   20,516,947,968 bytes
Total Bitrate:          24.09 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        18996 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         1977 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1977 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        1562 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1562 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        16.612 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        0.015 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00003.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:53:33.807     20,516,947,968  24,089          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:52.995     21,609 kbps     33,304 kbps     00:04:26.349    30,315 kbps     00:01:25.376    28,630 kbps     00:01:45.355    112,649 bytes   265,692 bytes   00:04:00.990    
2               0:06:52.995     0:04:46.995     20,391 kbps     28,977 kbps     00:10:45.519    28,605 kbps     00:10:42.850    26,303 kbps     00:10:37.845    106,310 bytes   212,595 bytes   00:07:59.312    
3               0:11:39.990     0:11:17.635     19,548 kbps     31,103 kbps     00:13:40.611    29,989 kbps     00:13:36.106    25,646 kbps     00:21:45.929    101,913 bytes   358,995 bytes   00:13:17.671    
4               0:22:57.626     0:09:08.965     22,120 kbps     36,722 kbps     00:28:19.072    34,847 kbps     00:28:02.055    34,291 kbps     00:28:29.999    115,323 bytes   378,134 bytes   00:28:06.559    
5               0:32:06.591     0:10:43.351     20,242 kbps     38,335 kbps     00:36:40.823    29,755 kbps     00:41:13.053    28,461 kbps     00:40:07.029    105,532 bytes   386,065 bytes   00:36:41.782    
6               0:42:49.942     0:08:44.857     19,617 kbps     28,841 kbps     00:46:59.608    26,561 kbps     00:47:14.498    25,695 kbps     00:47:10.035    102,274 bytes   266,626 bytes   00:43:13.090    
7               0:51:34.800     0:05:42.633     16,247 kbps     27,793 kbps     00:56:08.239    22,964 kbps     00:56:07.739    20,020 kbps     00:56:07.155    84,705 bytes    331,333 bytes   00:56:08.990    
8               0:57:17.434     0:02:54.465     15,315 kbps     21,642 kbps     00:58:24.918    20,910 kbps     00:58:24.292    19,885 kbps     00:58:21.289    79,845 bytes    247,531 bytes   00:58:41.351    
9               1:00:11.899     0:04:24.514     18,068 kbps     31,238 kbps     01:02:41.132    29,058 kbps     01:02:38.504    25,993 kbps     01:02:36.544    94,198 bytes    269,506 bytes   01:04:01.337    
10              1:04:36.414     0:10:48.689     20,027 kbps     30,587 kbps     01:13:05.464    29,801 kbps     01:14:46.064    28,752 kbps     01:14:43.770    104,414 bytes   259,055 bytes   01:14:50.861    
11              1:15:25.103     0:04:38.152     18,666 kbps     26,560 kbps     01:18:06.014    25,121 kbps     01:18:01.927    24,806 kbps     01:17:31.855    97,315 bytes    371,639 bytes   01:18:04.054    
12              1:20:03.256     0:07:33.744     18,885 kbps     36,157 kbps     01:24:27.562    27,534 kbps     01:24:23.725    23,727 kbps     01:24:18.887    98,456 bytes    225,009 bytes   01:27:37.001    
13              1:27:37.001     0:11:29.855     18,996 kbps     38,149 kbps     01:38:59.808    27,576 kbps     01:30:35.638    26,904 kbps     01:30:30.675    99,036 bytes    276,853 bytes   01:39:00.726    
14              1:39:06.857     0:05:53.436     21,278 kbps     32,119 kbps     01:42:16.547    30,237 kbps     01:42:13.377    29,599 kbps     01:42:08.497    110,931 bytes   353,134 bytes   01:39:19.870    
15              1:45:00.294     0:00:57.557     24,913 kbps     36,290 kbps     01:45:13.765    32,101 kbps     01:45:13.724    29,560 kbps     01:45:08.343    129,886 bytes   242,050 bytes   01:45:38.081    
16              1:45:57.851     0:07:34.954     9,037 kbps      13,577 kbps     01:46:01.605    11,087 kbps     01:46:16.203    10,166 kbps     01:46:12.282    47,115 bytes    198,114 bytes   01:45:58.643    
17              1:53:32.806     0:00:01.001     8,899 kbps      0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    48,415 bytes    198,114 bytes   01:53:33.598    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00003.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6813.640                18,996                  16,179,246,018  88,025,716      
00003.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6813.640                1,977                   1,683,592,368   10,199,538      
00003.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          6813.640                1,562                   1,330,350,696   8,321,598       
00003.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          6813.640                17                      14,149,075      83,864          
00003.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          6813.640                0                       12,762          82
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:21 AM
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The disc is a region free BD-25. There are quite many extras, I haven't checked them in detail yet. At a glance some dark scenes look a bit filtered and the visual effects shots seem to have EE and generally worse PQ than the other parts.
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Thanks, Kannisto.

Sounds disappointing. Are any of the extras in English?
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The ones that I glanced at had English audio and optional Japanese subs.
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