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Old 02-11-2012, 02:48 AM
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I picked up the new Warner Japan releases of Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown today at Yodobashi Camera, they were part of 2 for 2980 yen sale and with 10% store points the overall price was pretty nice, at around 1350 yen per disc when considering the points as cash-equivalent.

Here they are in Amazon JP:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0069EO3NG/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0069EO21E/

Looking at the Blu-ray comparison of U.S. and French Blu-ray releases of Jackie Brown here, this Japanese release seems to be a different encode since the bitrates are quite different to either of those 2 releases. The Japanese release has the highest bitrate for video but audio appears to be 16-bit unlike the U.S. release.

It also appears that the Japanese releases are region free in typical Warner fashion.

BD info scan of Jackie Brown:
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                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(JP) Jackie Brown                                               AVC     2:34:25 42,197,790,720  43,226,766,367  36.43   29.95   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2234Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     BDROM
Disc Size:      43,226,766,367 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00011.MPLS
Length:                 2:34:25 (h:m:s)
Size:                   42,197,790,720 bytes
Total Bitrate:          36.43 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29951 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2234 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2234 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        2141 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2141 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        52.030 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        2.248 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:19:29.097     21,707,900,928  36,414          
00001.M2TS      1:19:29.097     1:14:56.241     20,489,889,792  36,457          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:21:14.481     29,866 kbps     54,360 kbps     00:00:20.395    36,725 kbps     00:04:12.126    35,874 kbps     00:18:24.353    155,700 bytes   615,404 bytes   00:00:03.962    
2               0:21:14.481     0:02:19.931     29,341 kbps     38,404 kbps     00:22:08.785    33,166 kbps     00:22:08.618    32,711 kbps     00:22:08.285    152,969 bytes   521,723 bytes   00:22:13.081    
3               0:23:34.412     0:10:03.227     30,615 kbps     40,530 kbps     00:24:52.282    36,405 kbps     00:25:06.922    35,480 kbps     00:24:29.384    159,614 bytes   487,906 bytes   00:31:00.733    
4               0:33:37.640     0:06:51.953     28,644 kbps     51,698 kbps     00:40:09.198    37,069 kbps     00:39:56.477    34,999 kbps     00:40:09.198    149,337 bytes   544,307 bytes   00:40:09.865    
5               0:40:29.593     0:05:18.151     30,767 kbps     44,395 kbps     00:42:19.036    37,969 kbps     00:41:16.849    37,048 kbps     00:41:16.849    160,406 bytes   525,079 bytes   00:42:20.829    
6               0:45:47.745     0:09:52.091     30,930 kbps     47,680 kbps     00:53:31.917    38,078 kbps     00:53:31.875    37,506 kbps     00:53:38.673    161,257 bytes   654,926 bytes   00:55:12.976    
7               0:55:39.836     0:13:02.239     30,243 kbps     38,583 kbps     01:08:03.412    35,685 kbps     01:08:02.828    33,556 kbps     01:06:22.979    157,672 bytes   643,429 bytes   00:56:22.295    
8               1:08:42.076     0:00:33.992     30,250 kbps     37,310 kbps     01:09:00.594    34,284 kbps     01:09:00.594    32,948 kbps     01:08:56.423    157,712 bytes   626,275 bytes   01:08:55.631    
9               1:09:16.068     0:05:42.175     28,337 kbps     36,190 kbps     01:13:09.093    32,340 kbps     01:13:08.425    31,450 kbps     01:13:06.757    147,737 bytes   499,488 bytes   01:13:05.964    
10              1:14:58.243     0:04:30.853     29,293 kbps     54,159 kbps     01:18:58.608    37,651 kbps     01:18:10.102    37,527 kbps     01:18:04.137    152,720 bytes   623,930 bytes   01:18:58.775    
11              1:19:29.097     0:04:45.702     29,601 kbps     38,726 kbps     01:23:21.329    32,882 kbps     01:23:17.701    31,424 kbps     01:23:16.741    154,327 bytes   570,977 bytes   01:21:01.815    
12              1:24:14.799     0:06:57.500     29,582 kbps     40,874 kbps     01:24:22.891    35,176 kbps     01:24:20.430    33,993 kbps     01:24:20.430    154,228 bytes   513,069 bytes   01:31:00.913    
13              1:31:12.300     0:07:34.036     30,185 kbps     37,986 kbps     01:37:28.133    35,068 kbps     01:37:24.129    34,101 kbps     01:37:32.388    157,372 bytes   499,818 bytes   01:34:49.225    
14              1:38:46.337     0:04:11.251     28,956 kbps     42,765 kbps     01:38:52.760    35,477 kbps     01:38:52.801    34,541 kbps     01:39:27.878    150,966 bytes   472,584 bytes   01:41:08.604    
15              1:42:57.588     0:00:25.859     30,203 kbps     33,813 kbps     01:43:16.315    31,275 kbps     01:43:03.177    30,564 kbps     01:43:02.509    157,466 bytes   404,235 bytes   01:43:23.447    
16              1:43:23.447     0:28:23.326     31,329 kbps     47,680 kbps     01:50:17.569    38,640 kbps     01:50:13.523    37,120 kbps     01:50:16.985    163,337 bytes   526,667 bytes   01:54:58.349    
17              2:11:46.773     0:07:16.269     30,306 kbps     36,972 kbps     02:18:26.214    33,626 kbps     02:13:21.034    33,295 kbps     02:13:21.284    158,002 bytes   444,444 bytes   02:17:30.825    
18              2:19:03.043     0:09:15.555     29,059 kbps     44,778 kbps     02:23:10.248    34,974 kbps     02:24:00.632    34,428 kbps     02:24:14.771    151,499 bytes   489,940 bytes   02:24:36.167    
19              2:28:18.598     0:03:50.855     26,585 kbps     35,390 kbps     02:30:27.560    32,548 kbps     02:28:41.078    32,145 kbps     02:28:41.078    138,603 bytes   551,622 bytes   02:30:27.810    
20              2:32:09.453     0:02:15.885     23,682 kbps     32,806 kbps     02:33:56.185    27,096 kbps     02:33:54.808    26,459 kbps     02:32:59.879    123,542 bytes   542,145 bytes   02:33:07.386    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     4768.973                29,954                  17,856,507,194  97,113,459      
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           4768.973                2,214                   1,319,907,940   7,877,152       
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          4768.973                2,132                   1,270,973,480   7,700,705       
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          4768.973                61                      36,358,545      207,423         
00000.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          4768.973                1                       573,086         3,451           
00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     4496.158                29,949                  16,832,129,416  91,542,349      
00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           4496.158                2,255                   1,267,233,732   7,564,710       
00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          4496.158                2,150                   1,208,503,040   7,309,025       
00001.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          4496.158                43                      23,900,608      138,435         
00001.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          4496.158                4                       2,030,313       13,014


BD info scan of Pulp Fiction:
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(JP) Pulp Fiction                                               AVC     2:34:25 42,885,181,440  42,960,284,343  37.03   30.95   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2160Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     BDROM
Disc Size:      42,960,284,343 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00011.MPLS
Length:                 2:34:25 (h:m:s)
Size:                   42,885,181,440 bytes
Total Bitrate:          37.03 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        30947 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2160 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2160 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        1719 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1719 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         102.294 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        50.461 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        0.833 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:34:25.256     42,885,181,440  37,029          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:04:45.910     31,177 kbps     48,846 kbps     00:00:01.292    39,356 kbps     00:00:30.238    38,190 kbps     00:00:50.592    162,519 bytes   617,645 bytes   00:00:51.426    
2               0:04:45.910     0:02:17.428     11,931 kbps     37,556 kbps     00:05:12.603    34,600 kbps     00:05:08.599    33,141 kbps     00:05:07.640    62,204 bytes    607,645 bytes   00:04:48.079    
3               0:07:03.339     0:07:19.147     33,625 kbps     49,268 kbps     00:09:19.642    40,516 kbps     00:09:15.721    38,614 kbps     00:09:10.550    175,303 bytes   647,182 bytes   00:09:08.422    
4               0:14:22.486     0:06:42.610     30,451 kbps     38,640 kbps     00:14:32.871    34,139 kbps     00:20:41.156    32,870 kbps     00:20:38.237    158,755 bytes   571,783 bytes   00:17:35.304    
5               0:21:05.097     0:05:16.482     29,327 kbps     43,722 kbps     00:21:12.729    35,402 kbps     00:21:12.688    34,445 kbps     00:21:12.771    152,896 bytes   565,588 bytes   00:24:45.692    
6               0:26:21.580     0:04:52.292     31,284 kbps     45,667 kbps     00:26:26.793    36,220 kbps     00:26:26.835    34,857 kbps     00:27:56.424    163,103 bytes   714,281 bytes   00:27:16.051    
7               0:31:13.872     0:02:54.966     31,864 kbps     48,352 kbps     00:31:19.419    36,319 kbps     00:31:19.544    34,764 kbps     00:33:48.443    166,123 bytes   554,500 bytes   00:33:44.897    
8               0:34:08.838     0:12:27.955     31,787 kbps     41,199 kbps     00:35:28.668    36,241 kbps     00:42:48.816    34,761 kbps     00:42:48.524    165,723 bytes   588,842 bytes   00:43:36.822    
9               0:46:36.794     0:03:17.197     31,257 kbps     41,179 kbps     00:48:58.268    34,564 kbps     00:48:56.350    33,904 kbps     00:48:49.384    162,958 bytes   546,158 bytes   00:47:21.839    
10              0:49:53.991     0:04:52.375     32,535 kbps     42,089 kbps     00:49:54.866    38,925 kbps     00:49:54.783    36,588 kbps     00:49:54.574    169,625 bytes   533,235 bytes   00:53:11.605    
11              0:54:46.366     0:08:41.437     31,344 kbps     42,129 kbps     01:01:09.999    35,204 kbps     00:58:23.082    35,120 kbps     00:58:20.246    163,414 bytes   579,925 bytes   01:00:47.268    
12              1:03:27.804     0:07:11.097     29,835 kbps     51,833 kbps     01:03:30.223    39,414 kbps     01:03:30.223    38,896 kbps     01:03:30.223    155,547 bytes   706,636 bytes   01:03:54.205    
13              1:10:38.901     0:04:11.251     32,178 kbps     42,998 kbps     01:12:35.225    38,057 kbps     01:12:34.099    35,555 kbps     01:11:17.106    167,760 bytes   494,617 bytes   01:11:08.180    
14              1:14:50.152     0:07:44.297     29,697 kbps     50,307 kbps     01:20:19.314    33,779 kbps     01:20:19.356    32,491 kbps     01:20:19.231    154,825 bytes   594,724 bytes   01:20:20.023    
15              1:22:34.449     0:06:49.242     33,662 kbps     49,824 kbps     01:22:36.576    40,905 kbps     01:29:12.764    39,314 kbps     01:29:12.597    175,500 bytes   668,004 bytes   01:29:06.966    
16              1:29:23.691     0:04:26.724     31,700 kbps     45,097 kbps     01:33:27.101    38,983 kbps     01:33:27.101    36,877 kbps     01:33:35.234    165,270 bytes   666,600 bytes   01:33:50.166    
17              1:33:50.416     0:03:47.226     32,217 kbps     50,448 kbps     01:34:53.896    37,746 kbps     01:34:44.178    36,168 kbps     01:34:53.896    167,963 bytes   690,465 bytes   01:35:33.686    
18              1:37:37.643     0:05:28.911     29,715 kbps     41,305 kbps     01:37:38.435    35,943 kbps     01:37:38.435    33,345 kbps     01:37:38.435    154,918 bytes   574,346 bytes   01:38:18.851    
19              1:43:06.555     0:06:06.324     30,121 kbps     42,064 kbps     01:43:09.016    34,282 kbps     01:43:07.139    33,179 kbps     01:43:09.099    157,040 bytes   584,953 bytes   01:48:58.073    
20              1:49:12.879     0:02:23.810     32,801 kbps     41,349 kbps     01:49:20.762    36,126 kbps     01:50:25.702    35,522 kbps     01:50:20.739    171,009 bytes   650,483 bytes   01:50:24.200    
21              1:51:36.690     0:03:31.794     31,260 kbps     48,559 kbps     01:51:44.489    37,039 kbps     01:51:44.447    36,885 kbps     01:51:44.447    162,973 bytes   524,484 bytes   01:51:59.045    
22              1:55:08.484     0:01:56.241     32,821 kbps     38,993 kbps     01:57:03.725    35,722 kbps     01:55:09.861    34,742 kbps     01:55:10.028    171,115 bytes   487,032 bytes   01:55:11.779    
23              1:57:04.726     0:05:05.138     31,956 kbps     39,317 kbps     02:00:52.787    35,688 kbps     02:00:24.383    35,438 kbps     02:00:24.383    166,603 bytes   604,758 bytes   01:58:43.699    
24              2:02:09.864     0:11:09.085     31,582 kbps     53,234 kbps     02:10:34.827    36,518 kbps     02:10:34.827    35,196 kbps     02:10:13.847    164,654 bytes   753,801 bytes   02:10:35.702    
25              2:13:18.949     0:16:26.402     30,962 kbps     44,843 kbps     02:18:33.930    36,150 kbps     02:18:20.875    35,377 kbps     02:18:21.793    161,420 bytes   654,014 bytes   02:29:00.181    
26              2:29:45.351     0:04:39.904     27,457 kbps     39,850 kbps     02:33:59.063    34,730 kbps     02:30:33.274    33,847 kbps     02:30:00.032    143,193 bytes   539,705 bytes   02:33:16.770    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     9265.173                30,947                  35,841,338,710  194,920,129     
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Pulp Fiction seems to have some edge enhancement at times. Noticeable in the taxi pic.
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Wow, this looks promising kannisto--especially looking at the technical side and screencaps! Will be getting the Jackie Brown disc for sure, as I still have the Dutch import. Have you watched these on the big screen yet (screencaps only tell a very limited story, as we all know)

As for Pulp Fiction might it be that it is based on the Hong Kong transfer? (don't know if you have had a chance to see that one)

Hope to see more Warner releases in Japan soon. Even though I have region-free capability I strongly prefer buying non-region-locked discs if at all possible (yes, that comment is directed at you LionsGate)
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As a slight aside, are any of the UK Tarantino BDs worth picking up or are there better versions available in other regions?
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Interesting stuff. Jackie Brown is definitely derived from the same (modified) master as the Lionsgate. Comparing the bottom left shot of DeNiro/Fonda from Kannisto's grabs with this one from the Lionsgate at caps-a-holic...

(caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cap1=4227&cap2=4237&art=full&image= 6&cID=693&action=1&lossless=#vergleich)

...tells the tale, though honestly it's obvious just from the "look" of the other shots to anyone who's seen grabs of the Lionsgate. Couldn't find any exact corresponding grabs for PF but those do also have the more vivid/higher contrast look of the Lionsgate, and I'm willing to bet it follows suit. There is a recent thread over on blu-ray.com detailing a sale on Warner catalogs over at Amazon.jp. Many/most of them are Lionsgate U.S. releases ala these two (Scream 1-3 and a slew of others). IF those hold to this pattern, then it appears Warner JP has the rights to a large cluster of U.S. Lionsgate catalogs, and is issuing those same masters with higher bitrate encodes. ...Big IF needless to say. Two examples hardly tells anything definitive.

PS - sorry for not being able to link directly to the caps-a-holic pic...one needs minimum 15 posts for that capability.
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