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Old 05-21-2010, 05:08 AM
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Default 14 Blades (HEC - China)

Also got 14 Blades from Amazon China today. This was 133 yuan (about $19.5) + 20 yuan for shipping, so not among the very cheap HEC releases. I ordered this one as the Hong Kong release was reported to have pretty EE and DNR heavy PQ:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/asia/136148...ml#post3237254

At a glance the China release is not too good on the PQ front either, I could spot some quite notable EE and rather artifically sharpened looking images. I only took a quick look so far, I'll need to report in more detail after watching it and I'll take some screencaps also.

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Basic specs:
- Region free BD25
- Video: MPEG-4 / AVC, 1080p / 23.976 fps, 2.35:1
- Audio: Mandarin DTS-HD MA 5.1, DD 5.1 (448 kbps)
- Subtitles: Optional English and 2 types of Chinese
(English subs inside video image though some characters are partly a bit below the image)
- Extras: First Show, Behind the Scenes, Cast Interviews
(Extras are in 480i (SD NTSC) and in Chinese with no English subs)

BD Info Scan:
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(CN) 14 Blades                                                  AVC     1:52:50 18,698,766,336  23,053,258,367  22.09   17.93   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2367Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     JINYW
Disc Size:      23,053,258,367 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00009.MPLS
Length:                 1:52:50 (h:m:s)
Size:                   18,698,766,336 bytes
Total Bitrate:          22.09 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        17931 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2367 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2367 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             Chinese         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         21.716 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         13.260 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         13.731 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00007.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:02:40.577     441,827,328     22,012          
00008.M2TS      0:02:40.577     1:50:10.312     18,256,939,008  22,095          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:07:59.020     17,917 kbps     38,420 kbps     00:02:43.538    33,687 kbps     00:02:42.078    28,614 kbps     00:02:39.492    93,402 bytes    545,503 bytes   00:02:39.534    
2               0:07:59.020     0:09:44.458     17,954 kbps     38,929 kbps     00:08:43.940    25,631 kbps     00:10:04.770    24,336 kbps     00:15:46.570    93,604 bytes    480,942 bytes   00:09:06.045    
3               0:17:43.479     0:04:57.630     17,933 kbps     31,794 kbps     00:18:25.103    28,340 kbps     00:20:01.700    26,455 kbps     00:18:16.804    93,495 bytes    456,414 bytes   00:20:03.911    
4               0:22:41.109     0:02:50.503     17,955 kbps     36,124 kbps     00:22:45.363    29,891 kbps     00:22:45.363    27,060 kbps     00:23:17.437    93,609 bytes    453,587 bytes   00:22:45.405    
5               0:25:31.613     0:07:09.512     17,946 kbps     41,712 kbps     00:28:38.967    37,562 kbps     00:25:47.504    29,884 kbps     00:25:46.419    93,561 bytes    616,899 bytes   00:28:39.884    
6               0:32:41.125     0:04:23.846     17,945 kbps     41,100 kbps     00:34:32.320    32,293 kbps     00:34:28.524    26,325 kbps     00:34:20.641    93,556 bytes    610,074 bytes   00:34:47.794    
7               0:37:04.972     0:02:52.881     17,924 kbps     44,392 kbps     00:37:39.465    37,403 kbps     00:37:39.423    33,344 kbps     00:37:36.837    93,447 bytes    671,803 bytes   00:37:39.507    
8               0:39:57.853     0:03:08.104     17,954 kbps     43,411 kbps     00:42:57.449    36,381 kbps     00:42:54.071    27,717 kbps     00:42:48.482    93,605 bytes    575,734 bytes   00:42:54.113    
9               0:43:05.958     0:04:58.965     17,946 kbps     42,258 kbps     00:47:37.104    38,737 kbps     00:47:35.310    33,731 kbps     00:47:34.101    93,562 bytes    549,782 bytes   00:47:37.271    
10              0:48:04.923     0:04:57.130     17,959 kbps     37,104 kbps     00:52:28.270    27,192 kbps     00:49:35.972    24,100 kbps     00:48:14.349    93,631 bytes    532,891 bytes   00:52:28.395    
11              0:53:02.053     0:04:46.327     17,949 kbps     38,904 kbps     00:55:04.092    34,545 kbps     00:55:02.173    30,058 kbps     00:55:00.755    93,575 bytes    491,517 bytes   00:53:07.142    
12              0:57:48.381     0:07:02.547     17,937 kbps     33,016 kbps     01:03:25.301    29,738 kbps     01:03:25.301    25,581 kbps     01:03:25.051    93,517 bytes    579,004 bytes   01:01:48.371    
13              1:04:50.928     0:08:28.382     17,949 kbps     40,263 kbps     01:11:17.523    33,344 kbps     01:10:21.467    30,419 kbps     01:10:21.467    93,580 bytes    533,092 bytes   01:11:18.232    
14              1:13:19.311     0:04:47.537     17,945 kbps     32,618 kbps     01:15:19.681    29,169 kbps     01:15:16.887    25,128 kbps     01:15:12.132    93,556 bytes    416,885 bytes   01:15:12.174    
15              1:18:06.848     0:04:01.199     17,940 kbps     32,234 kbps     01:20:06.218    26,806 kbps     01:18:16.274    24,364 kbps     01:18:16.274    93,528 bytes    352,667 bytes   01:19:08.118    
16              1:22:08.047     0:04:13.378     17,934 kbps     44,185 kbps     01:22:47.587    37,801 kbps     01:22:45.210    33,042 kbps     01:22:42.540    93,500 bytes    518,286 bytes   01:24:22.515    
17              1:26:21.426     0:04:22.929     17,948 kbps     34,893 kbps     01:26:40.320    27,663 kbps     01:28:00.441    24,207 kbps     01:26:35.607    93,571 bytes    474,074 bytes   01:29:56.974    
18              1:30:44.355     0:08:17.872     17,944 kbps     55,618 kbps     01:35:26.804    40,848 kbps     01:35:02.363    37,456 kbps     01:35:25.678    93,549 bytes    857,150 bytes   01:35:26.846    
19              1:39:02.227     0:06:43.694     17,930 kbps     33,498 kbps     01:45:21.231    28,464 kbps     01:44:36.186    23,133 kbps     01:44:31.181    93,480 bytes    496,595 bytes   01:41:20.407    
20              1:45:45.922     0:07:03.965     17,801 kbps     49,983 kbps     01:47:41.663    44,349 kbps     01:47:41.580    33,370 kbps     01:46:03.774    92,808 bytes    573,321 bytes   01:47:04.334    
21              1:52:49.887     0:00:01.001     3,366 kbps      0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    18,316 bytes    24,150 bytes    01:52:50.555    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00007.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     160.410                 17,940                  359,725,421     1,957,280       
00007.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             zho (Chinese)           160.410                 449                     8,994,048       50,190          
00007.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           160.410                 2,266                   45,440,448      271,795         
00007.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           160.410                 20                      405,059         2,396           
00007.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           160.410                 21                      425,182         2,509           
00007.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           160.410                 44                      874,736         4,951           
00008.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6610.187                17,932                  14,816,606,609  80,617,276      
00008.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             zho (Chinese)           6610.187                448                     370,178,816     2,065,730       
00008.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           6610.187                2,369                   1,957,495,684   11,676,573      
00008.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           6610.187                13                      10,817,816      65,569          
00008.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           6610.187                14                      11,196,029      67,617          
00008.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6610.187                21                      17,504,751      101,911


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I look forward to hearing your thoughts. I must say I don't understand how Chinese discs can be pretty standard in having Lossless yet UK and even some Japanese Blu-ray's have it absent.
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Didn't watch this yet but as the screencaps show, it has a heavily processed look with strong appearance of EE and DNR. Perhaps the problems are baked into the source as the HK release seems to have similar problems...
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