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Old 04-03-2007, 09:51 PM
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Would appreciate help to find out how I can avoid the letterbox effect. I have a Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-Ray player with a Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK HD Display.

I understand that when I view a 2.40:1 movie like Casino Royale on my 16:9 screen, that the letterbox is unavoidable (though it would be nice to have the choice of a zoom feature that would just fit and cut-off the sides).

My main problem is that I can't even view a 16:9 movie in 16:9. When dealing with a 1080i signal, my Panasonic TV automatically goes to "full aspect" and switching is not possible. The problem seems to be that many 16:9 movies (such as Happy Feet) are "enhanced" and somehow my TV is misinterpreting the enhancement and then stretching it out, leaving me with a letterbox.

Has anybody else dealt with this problem?
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:26 PM
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Letterbox has never bothered me as I pay more attention to the movie than the black bars...
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Old 04-06-2007, 02:42 PM
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It's your player that needs to be told to output anamorphic widescreen as 16:9, not a problem with the TV, at least that's how it is with DVD's. Blu-ray's I would assume are all anamorphic.
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Blu-rays are not anamorphic as you would say a DVD or a film is anamorphic. Anamorphic is how a widescreen image is fit on a 4:3 frame. This image is stretched out horizontally through a lens for film and "stretch" on a TV to take the 4:3 frame to the original aspect.

Blu-ray has a 16:9 frame, so the image is not squeezed. It doesn't need to be squeezed.
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If you want to go edge to edge with no black boxes you will need a scaler that will resize the image. I believe Anthem is usually a top rated video scaler but it will set you back several thousand.
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Anamorphic is how a widescreen image is fit on a 4:3 frame.
Not really... anamorphic was used to overcome a drawback of the codec used in DVD where you could store a certain number of pixels per frame, nonanamorphic DVD's in letterbox are then limited in resolution by storing several blank pixels. Anamorphic uses all of the pixels to store image information. I mentioned it because the OP mentions that the disc says its enhanced for widescreen, which makes me think either it says so on the BD of Happy Feet, or the user is talking about a DVD version.
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Not really... anamorphic was used to overcome a drawback of the codec used in DVD where you could store a certain number of pixels per frame, nonanamorphic DVD's in letterbox are then limited in resolution by storing several blank pixels. Anamorphic uses all of the pixels to store image information. I mentioned it because the OP mentions that the disc says its enhanced for widescreen, which makes me think either it says so on the BD of Happy Feet, or the user is talking about a DVD version.
Thanks for clearing that up. I don't know where he got that information. Some people.
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I understand that when I view a 2.40:1 movie like Casino Royale on my 16:9 screen, that the letterbox is unavoidable (though it would be nice to have the choice of a zoom feature that would just fit and cut-off the sides).

My main problem is that I can't even view a 16:9 movie in 16:9. When dealing with a 1080i signal, my Panasonic TV automatically goes to "full aspect" and switching is not possible. The problem seems to be that many 16:9 movies (such as Happy Feet) are "enhanced" and somehow my TV is misinterpreting the enhancement and then stretching it out, leaving me with a letterbox.
Happy Feet is a 2.40:1 movie. Nothing is being stretched.

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Letterboxes suck! For cryying out loud I have a widescreen TV...four opf them...and I still get the stupid black bar that is not only distracting but makes my picture smaller!
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Letterboxes suck! For cryying out loud I have a widescreen TV...four opf them...and I still get the stupid black bar that is not only distracting but makes my picture smaller!
Would you rather lose the artistic integrity? I true film lover would not.
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