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Old 03-30-2008, 09:16 PM
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Default PS3 price drop = SA players price drop as well?

Although it is completely unconfirmed, many people expect the PS3 to drop to $299 within the next 6 months or so. If/when that happens, doesn't that automatically translate into lower prices for SA players across the board?

I know some SA players are forthcomng with lower prices anyways, such as Daewoo and Philips, possibly marketed as "budget" players. But since many of the "average" models are currently priced equal to the $399 PS3 (Sony S300, Sharp HP20, Samsung 1400, etc), won't they (or their equivalent newer models) immediately have to drop to match the PS3? SA sales are slow enough as it is without being undercut by a superior machine.

It seems that this would also drive lower prices in the used market. The above mentioned "average" models, as well as oldies like the Sony S1, Panasonic BD10, Philips BDP9000, and samsung BDP1000, will immediately lose their appeal unless they are substantially lower than $300. And with all the new players coming out with newer profiles and hopefully faster load times, there should be many units on the used market.

I'm just thinking out loud here, hoping that PS3 does in fact drop to $299 so many of us can have a chance to take advantage.

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Old 03-30-2008, 10:00 PM
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Thoughts are pretty simple when it comes to this.

You'd be a fool to get anything but a PS3 if you want a Blu Ray Player.

At $399, the unit plays Blu Ray's perfectly, never complains, is 2.0 profile, Upconverts splendidly, and with its vast computing power is mega fast.

It puts all other Blu Ray players to shame.

All its lacking is Analog outs, which are now obsolete, if you just buy a receiver that can decode PCM sound from an HDMI source.

If it goes down to $299, it'll just be that much better of a deal.

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Thoughts are pretty simple when it comes to this.

You'd be a fool to get anything but a PS3 if you want a Blu Ray Player.

At $399, the unit plays Blu Ray's perfectly, never complains, is 2.0 profile, Upconverts splendidly, and with its vast computing power is mega fast.

It puts all other Blu Ray players to shame.
Unless that player is the upcoming Panasonic BD50, which looks like it will squarely beat the PS3 as a Blu-ray movie player all around:

PS3 can't bitstream nextgen codecs. The Panasonic BD50 can.
PS3 can't decode DTS-HDMA. The Panasonic BD50 can.
PS3 doesn't have analog 5.1 outs. The Panasonic BD50 does.
PS3 can get loud with stage2/3 fan ramp ups. Panasonic BD50 doesn't need a big fan and is quiet like the BD30.
PS3 is large. Panasonic BD50 is small.
PS3 is ugly (IMO). Panasonic BD50 is sleek.
PS3 lacks IR, does not work with Universal remotes. The BD50 does work with Uni. remotes.
Panasonic BD50 is very fast and has all the remaining movie features of PS3, plus BD profile 2.0 support.

May/June can't come fast enough to get this player! =p~
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I completely agree, I was speculating on the price of other stand alone players in reaction to PS3 dropping in price. I would be very interested in an older player like a Sony S300 or S1, if the price dropped down to $150 or so. I would think a seller would be forced to drop that low, for reasons mentioned in my initial post. If they don't drop that low, I'd just get the $299 PS3.
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Unless that player is the upcoming Panasonic BD50, which looks like it will squarely beat the PS3 as a Blu-ray movie player all around:

PS3 can't bitstream nextgen codecs. The Panasonic BD50 can.
PS3 can't decode DTS-HDMA. The Panasonic BD50 can.
PS3 doesn't have analog 5.1 outs. The Panasonic BD50 does.
PS3 can get loud with stage2/3 fan ramp ups. Panasonic BD50 doesn't need a big fan and is quiet like the BD30.
PS3 is large. Panasonic BD50 is small.
PS3 is ugly (IMO). Panasonic BD50 is sleek.
PS3 lacks IR, does not work with Universal remotes. The BD50 does work with Uni. remotes.
Panasonic BD50 is very fast and has all the remaining movie features of PS3, plus BD profile 2.0 support.

May/June can't come fast enough to get this player! =p~
I agree that does look like a great player, but isn't it $599?
http://www.blu-ray.com/players/players.php?id=17

If the PS3 drops to $299 like everyone says, there will not really be any comparison. The BD50 will still have its place in the market, but I don't see them as direct competitors.
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Unless that player is the upcoming Panasonic BD50, which looks like it will squarely beat the PS3 as a Blu-ray movie player all around:

PS3 can't bitstream nextgen codecs. The Panasonic BD50 can.
PS3 can't decode DTS-HDMA. The Panasonic BD50 can.
PS3 doesn't have analog 5.1 outs. The Panasonic BD50 does.
PS3 can get loud with stage2/3 fan ramp ups. Panasonic BD50 doesn't need a big fan and is quiet like the BD30.
PS3 is large. Panasonic BD50 is small.
PS3 is ugly (IMO). Panasonic BD50 is sleek.
PS3 lacks IR, does not work with Universal remotes. The BD50 does work with Uni. remotes.
Panasonic BD50 is very fast and has all the remaining movie features of PS3, plus BD profile 2.0 support.

May/June can't come fast enough to get this player! =p~
Don't forget. All of that can be said for the now available BD30, with the exception of the 2.0. I think it is the BD player to beat for the money.
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Also there is an article at DVDTown talking about an article in the latest Home Cinema Choice Magazine that said this:

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"Sony's PS3 is the best Blu-ray player you can buy." The headline was in a "Fact or Fiction" section of the magazine. Guess what: the magazine gave the notion a "Fiction" seal.

The reason they gave: "Increasingly, the Blu-ray performance of the PS3 doesn't really stand up to videophile scrutiny. While its excellent clarity and fine detail reproduction is without question, motion is not the console's strongest point. Fast panning shots in Sony's own flagship 'Casino Royale,' are prone to stutter, whereas the company's own dedicated players render the same scenes perfectly. It is also prone to visual artifacts not seen on the latest dedicated players."
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Don't forget. All of that can be said for the now available BD30, with the exception of the 2.0. I think it is the BD player to beat for the money.
The BD30 cannot decode DD+, TrueHD, or DTS-MA internally. It can only bitstream them, whereas the BD50 can do both. Also, the BD50 appears (from photos I've seen) to actually have 7.1 analog outs, like the BD10.
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Bringing this thread back around to its original focus: I really really hope the BD50 is everything you hope it to be. If so, I can see many people dumping their current units to upgrade. Lots of used players on the market means lower prices.
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The BD30 cannot decode DD+, TrueHD, or DTS-MA internally. It can only bitstream them, whereas the BD50 can do both. Also, the BD50 appears (from photos I've seen) to actually have 7.1 analog outs, like the BD10.

He didn't mention internally decoding, that's why I didn't add it. He specifically said bitstreaming, which it does.
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