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Old 09-30-2007, 12:27 PM
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Question Blu-Ray players with non 1080p sets.

I know you guys are going to know a lot more than me, so what better place to ask.

I'm currently running a PDP-436XE 43" Pioneer plasma with my Toshiba HD-XE1

Now although this isn't a 1080p plasma, the picture quality does still blow me away when watched from my chair.

A lot of titles I want are on Blu-ray so I'm going to purchase a blu-ray player.
Casino Royale, Pirates, etc.

Firstly, connected via HDMI, A blu-ray player - will this output on my Pioneer plasma? I know it won't be 1080p, but a shop guy told me it will not work at all, whilst usually I believe them, this guy didn't really sound like he even believed his own tales.

Secondly, if it will work and the shop keeper told me lies, what model should I go for?

Pioneer BDP-LX70 Blu-ray Disc Player - bit out of my price range.... is it really worth that money?
In stock.
our price: 859.99 Delivered
RRP: 999.99 You save: 140.00 (14%)


Panasonic DMP-BD10 Blu-ray Disc Player - same as above
In stock.
Usually dispatched within 24 hours.
our price: 1064.99 Delivered
RRP: 1299.99 You save: 235.00 (18%)


Sony BDPS300B Blu-ray Disc Player - I've read people have problems with pirates on this?
In stock.
Usually dispatched within 24 hours.
our price: 329.99 Delivered
RRP: 349.99 You save: 20.00 (5%)


Sony BDPS500B Blu-ray Disc Player -
Pre-order.
Due for release on 08/10/2007
our price: 519.99 Delivered


Or the new samsung duo player??


I won't lie and say I know loads, but any help on this will be much appreciated.

Cheers!

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Old 09-30-2007, 12:55 PM
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I just bought a BDP-S300... The only "problem" with Pirates (and some other Blu-ray discs) is that it takes over 3 mins to load the movie.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:05 PM
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That's quite a while, but saying that my hd player takes about 1 - 2 minutes to load up.

Is your set a 1080p one? that's my main concern really.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:12 AM
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I have a Pioneer PDP-4270XA, I'm running my ps3 at 720p with 1080p/24hz on. So, when a BD or dvd with 24fps is played it is sent to the tv at this setting. The tv then downconverts the 1080p 24hz to the tv sets native resolution 1024 (Hor) x 768 (Ver). It does not, however do this with 1080p 60hz signals.

I can't tell whether your tv supports this.

http://www.pioneer.no/no/products/ar...SXE/index.html

I'd recommend contacting pioneer to get this clarified. Either way it supports 720p/1080i so you can hook up Bd players to it... & the problems may only arise from settings If you are not in a hurry to buy a bd player, I'd recommend waiting to see what becomes available over the holidays as blu ray specs aren't at the same level as Hd dvd.

Blu rays current standard doesn't support Pip (this is refered to as spec 1.1) or ethernet connectivity for downloads (spec 2.0). These are specs already supported in your Hd-XE1. If these features aren't important to you, then you might want to search around for which players give the best picture (aside from 1080p resolution) The differences are subtle but present. Some bd players do have ethernet ports for firmware downloads, so you may want to consider these in case you have trouble playing any bd films... then again, if you don't have a ethernet connection, it won't matter & you can get the firmware updates from the companies respective websites.

Finally, concerning the Playstation 3: It is the fastest playing Bd player & most likely to get the advanced features of the new BDA specs & the picture quality is great! It is currently also rumoured that Sony is working with DTS to develop DTS-MA bitstream support for it this holiday.

Hope this helps. Cheers.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:32 PM
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Cheers for the heads up

Picture in Picture does not really worry me, whilst blu-ray players don't currently have this option, I don't watch this feature on my HD-DVDs, I only buy them for the feature film itself, so buying something without this won't make to much of a difference to me.

Providing I can -actually- watch Blu-ray films on my Pioneer set, that's all that matters to me. I would of ordered one already, but I was just worried it might only work on 1080p sets, i've read so much hearsay which is why I came on here to ask people who actually own blu-ray players.

If I can view blu-ray films at 720p/1080i then I may order myself a machine tomorrow..... it would just be a matter of choice, aka the next stumbling block.

I want something that is at least as good picture quality as my toshiba Toshiba HD-XE1 unit, any ideas?

Cheers for the help so far!
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:47 PM
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Could you share how you've got things set up? Are you using an amplifier? If so which one? What cables are you using to connect between them?
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Could you share how you've got things set up? Are you using an amplifier? If so which one? What cables are you using to connect between them?

Sure.. It's not the best set up in the world as I'm sure you guys have a far superior set up.. But it does me just fine.

Pioneer 43" Plasma wall mounted and connect to the Pioneer PDP-RO6XE Media unit (2 hdmi's inputs)

QED Qunex HDMI leads from both the Toshiba HD-XE1 and the Denon DVD 1920 into the Pioneer media unit.

Cambridge Audio phono's (the yellow ones) are being used from both of these dvd/hd units into the back of my amplifier (Technics SE-A909S/SU-C909U) which is then connected to B&W 604 S3 front speakers.

I have no surrounds or sub at present, although to be honest you don't need subs with those speakers, but I do plan on updating my amplifier in the christmas sales.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:07 PM
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I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understood correctly: Are you planning on changing out the Pioneer reciever?
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:15 PM
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The media reciever came with the plasma. It's like a seperate black and grey box for all the component/hdmi leads etc to plug into, instead of the plasma itself. It has no audio purpose. I won't be replacing that

The Technics amplifier I will be replacing in the christmas sales as it's a good 10/12 years old, at a guess, the speakers I'm keeping as I'm very impressed with those.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:36 PM
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Aha... now I understand. Your setup could quickly get complicated, though it isn't necessarily so at the moment Would you like to have to have your XE1, 1920 & eventual Blu ray player hooked up into a new reciever(replacing your Technics)? If you are comfortable with keeping one of your players hooked up to the pioneer media box, I'd recommend you get a reciever such as the Pioneer VSX-LX50 & buy the LX-70A if you want the best audio & enough power to support your good speakers. The price is high & I'm not convinced it is entirely worth it. So, I'd recommend a Denon reciever (Model 2807 & up) As far as BD players go I'd recommend the Sony Sony BDPS500B even though it is a little slow on loading.
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