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Old 08-29-2007, 05:19 PM
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Xperinet makes media servers to backup DVDs and CDs to distribute through a home network to multiple location in the house. They previously said they were going to have HD DVD and Blu-ray support, and now they say they're supporting Blu-ray and it's a blow to the "fading HD DVD" and that it speaks of the "format's dominance over HD DVD."

Xperinet announces Blu-ray support

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The reference to VC-1 was interesting.

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The media servers will include a BD-ROM drive for loading 1080p content in MPEG-2 or MPEG-4/H.264. No word on if the VC-1 encoded films (like The Prestige and Deja Vu) will be supported.
Since I am not familiar with this company are they saying they can copy BD content to the hard drive for distribution? If so dont you think the BDA is going to have issues with that? I know Kaleidescope had a court case that went on for a couple of years for doing the same thing with DVD. They eventually won their case since it was determined that the media was not required for play back and that the encryption scheme was never circumvented. However that lawsuit makes me wonder if the legal jargon has changed for HD/BD discs and might spell trouble for any system manufacturer trying to do the same thing. Not to mention this article doesnt mention how BD+ discs would be handled.
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Well, Kaleidescape's issue is still not settled. They have been in out-of-court arbitration for a few years and they go to court over issues relating to the arbitration process. The DVD-CCA takes them to court for not following through with their arbitration agreements, but the court rules in favor of Kalaidescape (over and over) that they have been abiding by the license and the DVD-CCA has no case.

Xperinet is an up-and-coming company. They have a lot of technical knowhow from a PC perspective (they're using Linux custom built), but they're still trying to merge into the CE industry completely. They had one of the directors from Faroudja working for them, but he left. (Our company is an Xperinet dealer.)

What Xperinet does is they provide the hardware and operating system, and you (as the client) are required to provide your own codec decrypter. This leaves the legal situation at the client's end. Of course companies have been sued before for providing services like this, so we don't know. Of course the codec has to be specifically written for the Xperinet hardware - so you can do the math there...

I'm not sure how the BD+ will be handled. Hopefully the managed copy will work or something.
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...Since I am not familiar with this company are they saying they can copy BD content to the hard drive for distribution? If so dont you think the BDA is going to have issues with that?...
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think I remember something on the first BD flyer posted on Bluraydisc.com about content distribution. I don't recall too much, but I distinctly remember reading something about BD allowing copy distribution throughout a household (but it never directly referenced BD movies or supplemental material). This one left me scratching my head for some time, because I never really understood what they meant. Anyone have a copy of that .pdf flyer? I couldn't bring it up off the site anymore.
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AACS allows for managed copy so I could see how you can stream the content. The drawback I see here is managed copy is only allowed if the studio enables it per title. This will limit what you are able to copy legally.

On the BD side of things we have BD+ which is supposed to do a whole lot of checking to determine if things are legit. My guess here is managed copy writes a flag to the video saying its a managed copy, similiar to broadcast flag on tv, and BD+ should recognize it. Now what happens next I am not sure. My guess is the video will be launched in a virtual machine so the keys can be protected in memory while playback is occuring. Otherwise I would think the BD+ title could be subjected to hacking if normal AACS decryption is occuring.


On a side note, since this device isn't really more than a PC it seems that if someone were crafty they could just swap the internal BD drive with a dual format drive and have the best of both worlds. Of course that all depends on how much access one has to the linux kernel as well.
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Well if the unit is ethernet enabled, then I guess I could see where this is going. The only problem I have with this whole ordeal is time spent copying content to the server. It's not like we have achieved 12X BD drives as of yet. Seems like a painfully long process. Either way, if content distribution through a household is allowed it would definately be an option to consider.
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It takes about 10 minutes to rip a DVD on an Xperinet server. An hour for a BD maybe?
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It takes about 10 minutes to rip a DVD on an Xperinet server. An hour for a BD maybe?
I guess it doesn't sound too bad, but if Xperinet doesn't get it to market sooner, they might miss out on the early adopter crowd (the ones who would more likely pay top dollar for new technology). The reason I say this--just imagine having a library of around 100 titles when this thing comes out. By then I wouldn't want to bother will all the time it would take to convert my BDs. Just my opinion. But for someone building a HT with BD technology this would definately be an attractive option.
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