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Default New 2011 Blu-ray players are starting to appear with no analog video and audio output

New 2011 Blu-ray players are starting to appear on the market with no analog video and no analog audio outputs at all



This new Onkyo BD-SP309 Blu-ray player has only one HDMI output with no internal flash storage for BD-LIVE. This is the very first 3-D Blu-ray player on the market that requires a person to own a new TV with a HDMI input or DVI input with the use of an adapter (The old profile 1.1 Denon DVD-2500BTCI HD transport was the first Blu-ray player with no analog video and no analog audio outputs).


** This Onkyo BD-SP309 Blu-ray player has no analog video outputs and no analog audio outputs at all. Not even a 480i composite video output. **
http://images.blu-ray.com/news/upload/144.jpg

In the future one day all new models of Blu-ray players will have no analog video outputs or the analog video output will be disabled when playing Blu-rays, and most will have no analog audio outputs


This will be bad for consumers that want to replace an old DVD player with a Blu-ray player. They will be required to purchase a new modern HDTV display with HDMI inputs (Some will need a new A/V receiver also). People with older HDTV’s and older SDTV’s with no HDMI input that do not want to replace their TV’s will need to start purchasing discontinued 2010 Blu-ray player models.

Players like the OPPO BDP-93 and OPPO BDP-95 with 1080i analog component video outputs should be in production until December 31st 2011.


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"with the exception of Existing Models, any Licensed Player manufactured after December 31, 2010 shall limit analog video outputs for Decrypted AACS Content to SD Interlace Modes only [composite video, s-video, 480i component video and 576i video]. Existing Models may be manufactured and sold by Adopter up until December 31, 2011."


AACS Adopter Agreement (see page 105) December 31st 2013 is the deadline to remove or disable all analog video outputs including 480i composite video outputs on new Blu-ray players.

** The reason for all this is to protect movies from being copied from the analog video outputs on the Blu-ray player with a copyguard removing device. In the future only Blu-ray players with encrypted HDCP HDMI connections will be on the market **

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This is the very first Blu-ray player on the market that requires a person to own a new TV with a HDMI input or DVI input with the use of an adapter.
No, the Denon 2500 of a few years ago had only HDMI.
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No, the Denon 2500 of a few years ago had only HDMI.
I remember that Denon Blu-ray player and you are correct it did not have any analog video or analog audio outputs. It was called a Denon DVD-2500BTCI and it only had one HDMI output since it was a HD Transport Blu-ray player. It was designed to connect directly to a Denon A/V receiver or HDTV with HDMI.

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/DVD-2500BTCILit_1212A.pdf

This new Onkyo BD-SP309 for $249 is for mainstream consumers and it is not called HD Transport Blu-ray player.

The 2011 Panasonic and 2011 Toshiba Blu-ray players removed all the component video and 7.1 analog audio outputs from every new 2011 model. This year Onkyo decided to go one step further and remove the 480i composite video and 2 channel analog audio output.

What bothers me is that I use to tell people that a Blu-ray player will connect to any old TV set on the market (Old Blu-ray player models had component video and S-Video, etc). I have seen many people purchase Blu-ray players for their existing old SDTV’s and HDTV’s and then about a year or two later upgrade their displays to modern ones with HDMI inputs. Now soon I am going to have to tell friends, relatives, and other people that they need to also purchase a new display with HDMI inputs since their old display lacks HDMI or DVI inputs with HDCP.
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