Red Supporter Planning to go Blu

[ejdillon]

Well I think I have decided to go Blu...

I got into the format war only about 3 weeks ago after getting a new 1080p 47" HDTV and buying an HD DVD player at Costco for $169.99. I originally thought I would get a Blu-Ray player but when I went to buy the player $169.99 was just a lot more reasonable of a price, so I switched and got a Toshiba HD DVD player. When I got home and hooked everything up I found that my new HD DVD player would only do 1080i. This was very disappointing I guess I shouldn't have assumed that all the players did 1080p. I purchased one movie with the player and I am still waiting on my 5 free movies.

After the 1080i upset I started doing some research about both formats and have allot more information now. I am most disapointed to find out that Toshiba was going to go Blu until Microsoft and Intel teamed up to back HD DVD for their own selfish reasons which in the long run hurt the customer. Intel did it so it can make money off the processors in the HD DVD players. Microsoft did it so it could push its crappy video codecs making them the standard, and so it could charge licencing fees for the crappy WinCE based system the HD DVD runs on. This is most upsetting especially to a Macintosh Software developer as I am.

I have decided to get a Blu-Ray player and not buy anymore HD DVDs. But until BD 2.0 comes out I am just going to wait and watch regular DVDs. I can't see investing any money now until BD 2.0.

Does anyone know when the first BD 2.0 player will be released?

[nexpos]

No idea, but beware..... you're about to get attacked by 1080i defenders!

[White Doors]

Why not save yourself the wait and get the HD DVD players that play 1080p? Only the base model doesn't play 1080p.

[HD Guru]

Daewoo's BD 2.0 player is to be released in Q1/08.
I believe the LG BH-200 Dual Format player will be Blu-ray 2.0 compatible as it will support all of HD DVD's mandatory dfeatures and thus requires an internet connection.

You should chekc your HDTV with a benchmark test disc using 1080i patterns. If your HDTV pases all deinterlacing tests then you're getting 1080p from that 1080i player. If not you're getting 540 lines of resolution doubled.

If your TV is not 1080p, then you should have no issue with a 1080i player.

[JS1]

Originally Posted by ejdillon

Well I think I have decided to go Blu...

I got into the format war only about 3 weeks ago after getting a new 1080p 47" HDTV and buying an HD DVD player at Costco for $169.99. I originally thought I would get a Blu-Ray player but when I went to buy the player $169.99 was just a lot more reasonable of a price, so I switched and got a Toshiba HD DVD player. When I got home and hooked everything up I found that my new HD DVD player would only do 1080i. This was very disappointing I guess I shouldn't have assumed that all the players did 1080p. I purchased one movie with the player and I am still waiting on my 5 free movies.

Apparently your research left out the part about how your 1080p TV de-interlaces the 1080i output from your player and makes it look exactly the same as what you're going to get from a 1080p player. Go ahead, try hooking up a player with 1080p output and tell me you notice any difference at all - the final picture on your TV is going to look exactly the same. Newsflash: you were seeing full 1080p on your screen with your supposedly "only" 1080i player. 1080i vs 1080p is more or less marketing FUD when it comes to players, for this reason. And before anyone starts to point out how some TVs don't de-interlace 1080i "properly", please point me to a post or article where a real-world person is actually complaining about the de-interlacing capability of their 1080p TV from their 1080i HD DVD player. I haven't seen one yet.

[speaker]

if you have a 1080p TV you will get your movies at 1080p - it converts it.

nevermind i'm too slow apparently

[kamiller42]

Originally Posted by ejdillon

I have decided to get a Blu-Ray player and not buy anymore HD DVDs. But until BD 2.0 comes out I am just going to wait and watch regular DVDs. I can't see investing any money now until BD 2.0.

Does anyone know when the first BD 2.0 player will be released?

BD 2.0 is internet connectivity. I assume you really want it. If so, the PS3 has the best possibility of being 2.0 ready. The other option is to wait. There have been some sweet deals on the PS3 lately. The 40GB for $299 at Sony Style after credit card rebate is pretty good. Others throw in free movies, games, or accessories. Blu-ray also has lots of sales on media. That makes it affordable.

[Solstice X]

No one has any idea when a 2.0 player will come out. I know, however that the PS3 should be upgradeable to 2.0. If you don't like having a gaming console as part of your AV rack and really can live without online content, then pick up the 1.1 Panasonic BD30. It can do PiP and lots of other cool stuff. Plus it has a way of getting the 2.0 stuff to your player via SD card. It's called virtualization, though, I'm still researching that little piece of the player. I know it's a little expensive but blu-ray players (sans samsung) are really stable when compared to the Toshiba only HD-DVD players.

Edit: I forgot about the Daewoo being release Q1 2008. My bad!

[ejdillon]

Well, the 1080i upconverting sounds interesting but it still doesn't address the fact the Toshiba was going to go Blu until Intel and Microsoft decided to help them out.

[Rob.D.inToronto]

Originally Posted by ejdillon

Well, the 1080i upconverting sounds interesting but it still doesn't address the fact the Toshiba was going to go Blu until Intel and Microsoft decided to help them out.

That's an interesting factoid. I didn't know that one.

[kamiller42]

Here is another sweet PS3 deal. PS3 + free game + free movie + free remote = $399.

[blauter78]

Originally Posted by ejdillon

Well, the 1080i upconverting sounds interesting but it still doesn't address the fact the Toshiba was going to go Blu until Intel and Microsoft decided to help them out.

lol.. you are going to let that decide if you keep the player or not???

[White Doors]

Who cares? HD DVD is the accepted next gen format.
In other news, Britney and K-Fed broke up.

[Rob.D.inToronto]

Originally Posted by kamiller42

Here is another sweet PS3 deal. PS3 + free game + free movie + free remote = $399.

You must work for Sony.

[speaker]

Originally Posted by ejdillon

Well, the 1080i upconverting sounds interesting but it still doesn't address the fact the Toshiba was going to go Blu until Intel and Microsoft decided to help them out.

and that matters? there's money being tossed around on both sides by companies considered both good and evil.