Hype: The Obama Effect

[IceNine]

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[IceNine]

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[Rob71]

Thanks for the link, I had heard Dick Morris talking about it. Found this the other day while looking around the internet.

[Praetorian]

Originally Posted by Rob71

Thanks for the link, I had heard Dick Morris talking about it. Found this the other day while looking around the internet.

That would be funny if it wasn't so scary.

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-bar...-marxist-mole/

[IceNine]

Originally Posted by Praetorian

That would be funny if it wasn't so scary.

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-bar...-marxist-mole/

Damn, Obama is really fucked if all these communist links are accurate. I really don't like the guy in the first place and I like him even less if he really is so closely associated (past/present) with hardcore communists.

[Centauri]

What's wrong with communism?

[IceNine]

Originally Posted by Centauri

What's wrong with communism?

Well, other than everything?

[CochiseGuy]

Originally Posted by IceNine

Damn, Obama is really fucked if all these communist links are accurate. I really don't like the guy in the first place and I like him even less if he really is so closely associated (past/present) with hardcore communists.

Are there any "hardcore" communists left, besides maybe the few hiding out in North Korea? China is has a thriving free market economy, as does Russia. The last thing on earth I worry about is communists. On the other hand, Religious fanatics, Nationalists and right wing Facists do concern me.

[Praetorian]

Originally Posted by Centauri

What's wrong with communism?

Absolutely nothing if you don't have a job. But for those of us who work hard and give up substantial portions of our lives to better ourselves and those who invest in us, the thought of our paychecks going to other people doesn't sit well.

Even right now, I work 60+ hours a week and I'm 24 years old. When you add in all the state, county, local, and federal taxes, roughly 40% of my paycheck is gone even before I see it DD'ed into my bank account. Fast forward 6 months from now when Obama is president (most likely I think) I'm going to work the same amount of time and get paid substantially less.

As a currency analyst, a substantial portion of my paycheck comes from performance bonuses (capital gains). Obama's tax hikes will double the capital gains from 15% to almost 30%. By doubling the cap gains, that cuts my bonuses in half, and as a result, most of my paycheck. Why did I work so hard in college just to see it go to other people?

There's nothing wrong with communism if someone is an unproductive member of society, but for those who like to work and work hard (getting fewer and fewer each day), there is a huge problem with communism.

[IceNine]

Originally Posted by CochiseGuy

Are there any "hardcore" communists left, besides maybe the few hiding out in North Korea? China is has a thriving free market economy, as does Russia. The last thing on earth I worry about is communists. On the other hand, Religious fanatics, Nationalists and right wing Facists do concern me.

I am not worried about communists, but I don't want a president who will push a socialist agenda in America. Obama is pretty hardcore into the socialism, from what I can tell.

It is just one step from socialism to communism. But I am a hardcore Libertarian, so socialism and communism offend me on many levels.

[Chief]

I don't understand how someone with half a brain could fall for this smoke and mirrors campaign. I don't know what they are smoking but I don't want any part of it......Scary.

[CochiseGuy]

Originally Posted by Praetorian

As a currency analyst, a substantial portion of my paycheck comes from performance bonuses (capital gains). Obama's tax hikes will double the capital gains from 15% to almost 30%. By doubling the cap gains, that cuts my bonuses in half, and as a result, most of my paycheck. Why did I work so hard in college just to see it go to other people?

The poor schmuck making only $33,000 a year in hourly wages or salary pays a 25% tax rate, plus social security & medicare taxes on his earnings - which you don't on your bonsues. He can not save up enough on that income to buy a house, so he has no mortgage deduction. He's not married, so no child credits or deductions. He's still paying off the student loan debt, and he worked just as hard as you to get through college. Why should he pay almost twice the tax rate you do just because you and your employer are cleaver enough to structure a large portion of your compensation as capital gains instead of ordinary income?

That's what the Obama tax plan is about - more fair and equitable distribution of the tax burden.

[Praetorian]

Originally Posted by CochiseGuy

The poor schmuck making only $33,000 a year in hourly wages or salary pays a 25% tax rate, plus social security & medicare taxes on his earnings - which you don't on your bonsues. He can not save up enough on that income to buy a house, so he has no mortgage deduction. He's not married, so no child credits or deductions. He's still paying off the student loan debt, and he worked just as hard as you to get through college. Why should he pay almost twice the tax rate you do just because you and your employer are cleaver enough to structure a large portion of your compensation as capital gains instead of ordinary income?

That's what the Obama tax plan is about - more fair and equitable distribution of the tax burden.

You're absolutely right that I don't pay those taxes on my bonuses, I still pay income taxes on my salary along with the social security, medicare, and medicaid taxes. I pay all the taxes that 'poor schmuck' pays, and then some. Do you think I make enough to hire a tax lawyer to 'get around' those loop holes? Absolutely not, those types of situations are for the extreme rich that make millions in bonuses, not what I make. Those tax loop holes should be closed, I won't argue with that for one second. I pay more in terms of nominal taxes and tax rates than people do that don't make as much as I do. I'm already doubled taxed because I get paid salary, and also performance (bonuses), something that 'poor schmuck' doesn't have to deal with.

Don't make generalizations about hypothetical people working as hard as I did in college. I took out a shit load in student loans to go to a top 10 business school so that I could work harder than the normal person. That's why I believe I deserve to be compensated significantly more than the normal person. Everybody knows about what they're going to make in a certain field of study, and just because someone picks an area of study that doesn't pay out as well as mine, that in no way entitles them to my paycheck. In my humble opinion anyway.

There is nothing fair about the Obama tax plan for anyone. It's either advantageous for the people who make less, or extremely unfair for the people who make more. Fair is an impractical theory, there are always winners and losers, never a tie. I work hard, and I enjoy it. There is nothing 'fair' about me working the same amount as I do now, and getting paid less for it, just so someone else can have an easier life for taking a 'easier' path in life. We all make our own destiny's and to expect to be entitled to someone else's success is absolutely wrong. That isn't what our country was founded on; it's what we've progressed into thinking out of jealousy. I already give up enough in terms of my free time and my youth to my career, I don't need to be taxed on top of that more so than I already am.

I think we're probably in agreement that the tax loop holes should be closed. What people are failing to understand right now, is that there is already a record number of corporations that are moving abroad, especially offshore and to Europe. Why would increasing those taxes bring those corporations back?

[zombiequest]

What is this film showing that ALL of us have not already watched once or twice on TV and saw already in all these interviews and speeches and commentator oppinions????... They should rename it "While you were living in a Cave the past 18 months.."

I mean FUCK... come on... Im in the wrong business if this "Director" can grab all the clips we've already seen and make money by reshowing what MSNBC has already filmed. How bout' some "Original Footage"???

If you ask me, Republicans are absolutely JEALOUS beyond comprehension that ANY candidate other then their own can raise record numbers and change their landscape. and WHY??? Because their candidate is John "put them to sleep" McSame... when was the last time ANY ONE of you Republicans bragged about McCain or said anything positive about McCane or showed the Remotest EXCITEMENT about McCain??? None of you have... because your not excited about him. You have no "promise". You have nothing to look forward to.. REPUBLICANS = FUCK Hope. So rather then cheer for your "Good Guy" you Rant against your "Bad Guy".

That's absolutely Pathetic. (Why dont you guys dig up Reagan and work on a Reanimating Fluid) oh wait-a-minute, you guys are against stem-cell resource... shoot... that's too bad, guess the Fucker stays Dead.

[BillythePuppet07]

Originally Posted by Praetorian

That would be funny if it wasn't so scary.

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-bar...-marxist-mole/

Scary or not, that is funny as hell. Classic.