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Old 03-10-2008, 11:55 PM
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Default When will we start to see hard sales numbers?

I'm tired of these percentages. We got it, Blu-ray won. I want to see hard player sales, standalone and PS3s, and software sales.

It seems all we get is this comparison garbage that tells us nothing.

Any links?
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:59 PM
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You can find some of that information around...like PS3 numbers...but don't ever expect hard numbers on a regular basis. I mean...did we ever get those on DVD?

Not really. Otherwise, search for NPD...at least on the video game side, those get leaked out pretty regularly. Otherwise, you're not going to get hard data on a regular basis...at least not for free.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:00 AM
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You can find some of that information around...like PS3 numbers...but don't ever expect hard numbers on a regular basis. I mean...did we ever get those on DVD?

Not really. Otherwise, search for NPD...at least on the video game side, those get leaked out pretty regularly. Otherwise, you're not going to get hard data on a regular basis...at least not for free.
Player numbers, we did. The Bits used to have a running tally of players sold each month.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:02 AM
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Player numbers, we did. The Bits used to have a running tally of players sold each month.
Well, hope they're able to release them again. We see video game numbers out on a monthly basis (if you want those PS3 numbers) because NPD allows them to put it out there, to a certain limitation. If Bits gets it, then obviously they have such an arrangement too.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:51 AM
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Blu-ray sales are tanking along with HDDVD. Sales are down dramatically in the past month in comparison to DVD sales. It's not gaining on DVD, it's losing badly to DVD and digital downloads.
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Blu-ray sales are tanking along with HDDVD. Sales are down dramatically in the past month in comparison to DVD sales. It's not gaining on DVD, it's losing badly to DVD and digital downloads.

Can you provide a link to these sales numbers please.
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Can you provide a link to these sales numbers please.
Ask Bill Hunt to post it.
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:01 AM
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Ask Bill Hunt to post it.

I believe he asked you to back your bullshit up. Bill Hunt didn't say the sales were tanking. You did. Now back your statement up or let's just call it trolling.
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:04 AM
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The industry doesn't want us to see the hard numbers, because it would reveal how horrible they are. Especially the weekly software sales, where on average just a few thousand units move. Just know that if Sony had anything to boast about, we would have been reading press releases about any milestones. Last I checked Saw 4 was the best selling HDM title of 2008, and it has sold thousands of copies (Any updates?). That info says enough right there for people interested in software figures.

Oh and Bill Hunt only leaked the NPD numbers that week because it made HD DVD look bad. Otherwise he would not have posted them.
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:06 AM
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I am also quite sure that ending the BYGO offers have not helped either.
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I believe he asked you to back your bullshit up. Bill Hunt didn't say the sales were tanking. You did. Now back your statement up or let's just call it trolling.
Ask Bill Hunt to post the numbers. Why isn't he posting the monthly numbers?

Just look at the charts on this site.

http://charts.highdefdigest.com/history.aspx

Top 100 for Bluray has drop from the average ranking of 200 on 2/14 to ranking of 700 as of today 3/10.

The ranking is relative to DVD and HDDVD sales. Sales for Blu-ray are tanking.
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Ask Bill Hunt to post the numbers. Why isn't he posting the monthly numbers?

Just look at the charts on this site.

http://charts.highdefdigest.com/history.aspx

Top 100 for Bluray has drop from the average ranking of 200 on 2/14 to ranking of 700 as of today 3/10.

The ranking is relative to DVD and HDDVD sales. Sales for Blu-ray are tanking.
You still haven't backed up your statement. And your Amazon bullshit means nothing. It has been proven over and over that it is irrelavent to the overall sales of HDM. Back your statement up with some industry numbers and not some amazon drivel.

And why are you worried about Bill Hunt posting the numbers. What are you really worried about? Are you so hurt by HD DVD losing the war that you want everyone else to suffer as much as you?
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:35 AM
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You still haven't backed up your statement. And your Amazon bullshit means nothing. It has been proven over and over that it is irrelavent to the overall sales of HDM. Back your statement up with some industry numbers and not some amazon drivel.

And why are you worried about Bill Hunt posting the numbers. What are you really worried about? Are you so hurt by HD DVD losing the war that you want everyone else to suffer as much as you?
Because the OP wants hard sales numbers. I want to see them too, to prove me wrong. Hard sales numbers would shut me up wouldn't it?

Ask Bill Hunt to post those numbers he has been doing before. Why suddenly stop? Where's the Blu-ray player sales numbers from NPD? Where are the Blu-ray software sales numbers from VideoScan?
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:40 AM
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yeah but...the recession, no movies in the first quarter, credit card debt from Christmas, Gov. Spitzer did enjoy renting the Ring...
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yeah but...the recession, no movies in the first quarter, credit card debt from Christmas, Gov. Spitzer did enjoy renting the Ring...
Gov Spitzer should've opted for DVD instead of High Class DVD. Could've saved himself a bundle.
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