What AG being Number 1 Means to blu-ray

[Samlives]

If American Gangster was the Number 1 selling High def disk ? Then what does that mean to blu-ray?

How many disk did American Gangster really did sell? Most of the blu-ray fanboys have been saying no one is buying hd dvd anymore , same goes for bill hunt and all the media? HD DVD is dead ? right?

Well if that is true then we should then say HD DVD only sold 50K max ? Who would buy it on hd dvd a dead format right?

Micheal Clayton manged about 31 or 32 percent of that? right so that would put micheal Clayton at 30 k? or roughly around there? maybe more or less

and The rock did 27 percent of that so that puts it at 8k roughly maybe give or take a few? Right


Now go below and you realize something , something really interesting we are at march and Blu-ray sales are horrible , and they have been horrible since Jan 4..... Since WB Switched , since the Media began the Frenzy and the studios and everyone began the confusion......

HD DVD and Blu-ray were selling at high volumes all the way till the last week of Decemeber Blu-ray outsold HD DVD at a 2:1 ratio ,but no one could denie that HD DVD was selling at high numbers , even if Blu-ray was selling more.....

Then JAN 4 came around and HD DVD crumbled the following week , but something else i notice Blu-ray went down as well... I have been watching those charts and since then and it has been consistent , the volumes for blu-ray have been low , Forget about hd dvd they were done with. Even if i tried to believe hd dvd could pull through , i knew from jan 4 that hd dvd was dead , but what i fear most was that Blu-ray was niche .....

And you guys have had some big releases like WE own the Night and Gone baby Gone , SAw 4 , the game plan and before anyone goes and says wait those were crap they are all top sellers on dvd , meaning they are selling in huge volume on dvd even after 2 or 3 weeks.

Blu-ray has more then 5 million stand alone players? Is anyone buying movies ?

The whole top ten probablay doesn't amount to no more then 100 k of movie sold the week of american gangster ? and it has been like that since jan 4.....

I knew HD DVD Was dead after Jan 4 even if i didn't want to believe it , but i really didn't think blu-ray was niche.

For those of you saying Downloads won't over take Blu-ray ? Blu-ray may never go mainstream

[michealo]

AG is the last quality major release the format will see.

[Blu-News.com]

While I see your point, consumers still need time to adopt Blu-ray. The confusion is over, but it's only been over for a bit. I'm sure people are waiting for cheap players, as they believe it will come thanks to HD DVD.

[vp1]

All that because the best title coming out for HD-DVD scored #1?

I'll tell you what the effect of AG being #1 is to Blu-Ray....."Nothing".

And I guess we should start to expect the standard "well, downloads will kill Blu-Ray....Blu-Ray will never become mainstream" FUD in threads like these.

How about giving Blu-Ray time to get past killing HD-DVD so it can show what it will do in the market and also looking at all the things about downloads that could also prevent it from becoming mainstream? Guess that's too much to ask.

[Wayne]

People are buying HD-DVD disks, knowing they will soon be unavailable. If you have an HD-DVD player and a number of disks, this is not a bad strategy. When Paramount dropped BD, the same thing was seen. People snapped up the Paramount BD's before they vanished from the market. The extent to which BD will take over the market is not yet clear. We should know by Christmas.

[snp]

Originally Posted by Samlives

Well if that is true then we should then say HD DVD only sold 50K max ? Who would buy it on hd dvd a dead format right?

Micheal Clayton manged about 31 or 32 percent of that? right so that would put micheal Clayton at 30 k? or roughly around there? maybe more or less

and The rock did 27 percent of that so that puts it at 8k roughly maybe give or take a few? Right

I think you mean '62 or 63%' of that for Micheal Clayton, but yeah that'd be about 31k if American Gangster was 50k. (Rounding off it's actually closer to 3:2 sales (4% off); i'm not sure why the lead article on this site chose to round down all the way ~12.5% to call it 'nearly 2:1'. Anyho.)

The Rock's 27% of 50k, if i understand this thing right, not of Micheal Claytons figure. Meaning using that baseline for American Gangster, it'd be closer to 13.5k.

But the thing with Bluray is it's 'tail' is quite long. There's only a very small drop from third to forth to fifth to sixth etc. These would collectively add up to quite a bit. HD DVD, by contrast, drops to one sixteenth of the sales for it's 'number two'. And it's number three is one quarter to one fifth the sales of Bluray's number three. It's number six is 'one tenth' the sales of Bluray's number six. The further down the list you get the worse its tail is.

[kowhite]

So...sales were really high up to the end of December, and started going down in January on.

Now I'm not sure what geniuses we have on this forum that are seemingly clueless about sales patterns and their relationship with the time of the year (notably, the holidays and the slower period after)...but I suggest you look into it.

Now we know sales have been selling at volumes many multiples larger than what we were seeing last year. I'd say the doom and gloom of the OP is just naive.

[Monty HD]

Originally Posted by michealo

AG is the last quality major release the format will see.

Bullshit!

The mass adoption of BD still has not begun and may never will. Pretty sad when 10 million blu-ray players still struggle against less than 1 million players of a DEAD format.

Clearly the lines were drawn a bit prematurely but at this point who cares.

I just hope that Sweeny Todd comes to BD soon.

[Jason One]

Move on folks, nothing to see here. Just another bitter HD DVD fan grasping at straws.

[snp]

Originally Posted by Monty HD

Bullshit!

The mass adoption of BD still has not begun and may never will. Pretty sad when 10 million blu-ray players still struggle against less than 1 million players of a DEAD format.

'10 million players'?

[vp1]

Originally Posted by Monty HD

Bullshit!

The mass adoption of BD still has not begun and may never will. Pretty sad when 10 million blu-ray players still struggle against less than 1 million players of a DEAD format.

Clearly the lines were drawn a bit prematurely but at this point who cares.

I just hope that Sweeny Todd comes to BD soon.

Woohoo! Gotta love those attach rates! <rolls eyes>

[vp1]

Originally Posted by snp

'10 million players'?

Methinks he's counting PS3's.

[snp]

Originally Posted by kowhite

So...sales were really high up to the end of December, and started going down in January on.

Now I'm not sure what geniuses we have on this forum that are seemingly clueless about sales patterns and their relationship with the time of the year (notably, the holidays and the slower period after)...but I suggest you look into it.

Now we know sales have been selling at volumes many multiples larger than what we were seeing last year. I'd say the doom and gloom of the OP is just naive.

Well said, comparing like to like - last year this time to this year - sales have grown significantly. If they grow the same this year to next, the format will be well into the beginnings of mainstream.

[kowhite]

Originally Posted by snp

'10 million players'?

Didn't you hear? They sold 5 million PS3s and 500k SAL Blu-ray players in February.

[snp]

Originally Posted by vp1

Methinks he's counting PS3's.

The entire worlds by the look of it.