Bd $$

[duckie42]

in the last few months since the WB anouncements & i aquired a 40GB PS3 Ive noticed the New BD movies gradually going up & the older movies that have a 6 months to a year lapse since the BD/DVD release. (& the SD price has deminished down to less than half the release price of $19.99 usd)
shouldnt the price gradually go down for the movies. the $24.99-$39.99 that was the origional release date price dosent change. & when the sale price of "X" movie on SD shouldnt the sale also include the BD version. the adoption of the BD format would go mich easier of the players & movies came down much faster. i see by 2011 40-60% of places like BB CC walmart blockbuster will start deminishing their SD catalogue for the influx of BD titles, & studios will start releasing titles only on BD

[JS1]

Studios are just capitalizing on the spike in increased demand with all those people jumping into BD that were waiting on the sidelines for a winner to emerge. Once this surge in demand subsides, prices will fall to adjust.

[kowhite]

I imagine that some of us might be spoiled by holiday pricing too, something we shouldn't really expect to see year round.

Granted, I should probably note that I haven't actually seen the normal prices on titles go up anywhere. I have seen some older titles go down though.

[szhjcn]

Haven't seen them going up, but they don't seem to be coming down either.

As this is a new format with a large untapped customer base out there, I guess the prices will not drop as quickly as for SD. After all they are looking at making extra revenue from this new format.

I personally can wiat till we get some more sales, even if this means waiting till the end of the year. Some BOGO's would be great.

[Sparrow]

im not sure where you all are shopping but ive seent hem come down, like I am Legend 18.99 at Amazon on the day it was released? thats incredible.

sure you can point to some expensive titles, but when big titles like that come out that cheap...

[Philnerd]

Come on guys, lets take the blu blinders off for a minute.

Warner increased new releases from $35 to $36 late last year.

Now Warner is increasing many of their catalog titles from $30 to $35 via these book editions.

It appears that Disney's upcoming "Signs" is $35 instead of their typical $30 catalog price.


Obviously prices are cheaper on Amazon, people that pay retail are crazy, <insert other reasons to justify denial regarding price increases>, etc... but the truth is the MSRPs - on which actual prices and retailer profit are set - have indeed been going up.

I don't understand the denial...

[Philnerd]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

im not sure where you all are shopping but ive seent hem come down, like I am Legend 18.99 at Amazon on the day it was released? thats incredible.

sure you can point to some expensive titles, but when big titles like that come out that cheap...

I saw it at Best Buy for $34.99 yesterday. Its pointless to single out the occassional price at the occassional retailer. MSRPs have been increasing on Blu-Rays since late last year. That pretty much means the average price the average person pays has increased.

[JS1]

Originally Posted by Philnerd

Come on guys, lets take the blu blinders off for a minute.

Warner increased new releases from $35 to $36 late last year.

Now Warner is increasing many of their catalog titles from $30 to $35 via these book editions.

It appears that Disney's upcoming "Signs" is $35 instead of their typical $30 catalog price.


Obviously prices are cheaper on Amazon, people that pay retail are crazy, <insert other reasons to justify denial regarding price increases>, etc... but the truth is the MSRPs - on which actual prices and retailer profit are set - have indeed been going up.

I don't understand the denial...

Who said anything about denial? They are undoubtedly higher, and there are certainly a lot less sales than last year. But that was going to happen no matter who won the format war, at least for a while. Nothing to get too excited about at this point... if we don't see some nice sales by X-mas, I'd be a little more upset.

[Philnerd]

Originally Posted by JS1

They are undoubtedly higher, and there are certainly a lot less sales than last year.

I'm not even accounting for sales here, its the rising MSRPs that concern me; the actual MSRPs are going in the wrong direction

Originally Posted by JS1

But that was going to happen no matter who won the format war, at least for a while.

Actually the only price adjustments we saw on the HD DVD side was from Warner Brothers; they *lowered* their new release Combo discs from $40 to $36. Even Paramount didn't charge a premium for their 2 disc special editions (unlike Sony, which MSRPs some of those at $44 instead of their typical $39).
In fact, Warner's $1 price increase and Sony's $44 special editions hit *before* the format war ended. Now Disney's sudden possible shift to $35 on at least some catalog titles is definitely post-format war. But I don't think its safe to simply assume that HD DVD prices would have suddenly risen now had that format won the war. HD DVDs were cheap to press without any subsidies, so production runs would not have gotten more expensive. BD50s are still expensive to print and I suspect as subsidy deals are ending or being adjusted downward the studios are simply passing the buck on.

[Sus Ano]

Milk and bread have gone up too. And gas - Jeebus that damn Sony! Increasing the price of food is one thing evil BDA, but making it more expensive for people to drive around looking for deals on HD-DVD is just mean.

Oh wait. Maybe when they say US inflation is running at 4% they mean inflation is running at 4% (or 9% if the US had not changed how they count inflation in Jan 08). Seriously though what else did you think was going to happen when the US dollar drops in value? The lower the dollar against the yen and yuan the fewer imported "things" that can be bought with a dollar and the more expensive EVERYTHING will get in the US. Well not houses - those have another 20% to drop in value. But everything else - watch out. For much of the past year inflation expenses were eaten by manufacturers and retailers but with business slowing and profits dropping they can't do that anymore.

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/commen...flation-i.html

Add inflation to the correctly identified spike in demand and it may be a while before blu-ray prices drop considerably. It is a tech product so discs and players will drop and certainly there will be sales and such but it will be a slower process than say 2 or 3 years ago. Manufacturing will improve and economies of scale will get larger but these deflating factors will to some degree be countered by inflation.

[Arkadin]

what I have noticed is that many titles have gone DOWN, but others--notably Warner titles--have been going UP, so it really just depends on the individual title.

[McSquisherton]

Originally Posted by Philnerd

Come on guys, lets take the blu blinders off for a minute.

Warner increased new releases from $35 to $36 late last year.

Now Warner is increasing many of their catalog titles from $30 to $35 via these book editions.

It appears that Disney's upcoming "Signs" is $35 instead of their typical $30 catalog price.


Obviously prices are cheaper on Amazon, people that pay retail are crazy, <insert other reasons to justify denial regarding price increases>, etc... but the truth is the MSRPs - on which actual prices and retailer profit are set - have indeed been going up.

I don't understand the denial...

even though these 30-35$ prices you speak of are msrp, i do not mind paying that much for a movie. but, i myself only buy movies that i like and have seen before in the theater. i dont mind paying money to the filmakers, studios, writers etc. if the movie is truely that good then its worth it. i will admit i will occasionally do a blind buy here and there, but mostly i do not.

[Philnerd]

Originally Posted by McSquisherton

even though these 30-35$ prices you speak of are msrp, i do not mind paying that much for a movie. but, i myself only buy movies that i like and have seen before in the theater. i dont mind paying money to the filmakers, studios, writers etc. if the movie is truely that good then its worth it. i will admit i will occasionally do a blind buy here and there, but mostly i do not.

I fully understand that - and in fact do the same thing (I have the Sweeny Todd import pre-ordered $$$).

Unfortunately that doesn't address the fact that a fair amount of Blu-Ray studios have been *increasing* MSRPs for some time now and price increases are Not what I'm looking for 2 years into the format's life

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Philnerd

I saw it at Best Buy for $34.99 yesterday. Its pointless to single out the occassional price at the occassional retailer. MSRPs have been increasing on Blu-Rays since late last year. That pretty much means the average price the average person pays has increased.

You are totally right, however i would still say, and partly cause i dont care what others spend, i am generally paying less for new and catalog releases simply by buying off Amazon, the retail prices on BD's are absolutely INSANE, there is no doubt about it, you go to Best Buy or other retailers similar to that and you get gouged.

but in general the prices ive been paying by shopping at amazon are less.