Displays that support 1080p/24 signal at multiplies of the original frame rate

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4 new LG 48HZ Plasma screens have been added to the list

(First time LG Plasma screens have been added to the list)

LG 60PS80 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

LG 50PS80 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

LG 60PS60 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

LG 50PS60 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

Warning about all 48HZ LG Plasma screens and 48HZ LG LCD screens on the list

So far, I have not read any reviews yet from anyone that has tested the 48HZ feature on any LG LCD screen or LG Plasma screen. The 48HZ LG Plasma and 48HZ LG LCD screens are on the list since LG claims in their spec sheets and/or manuals that the models are either "24p Real Cinema with 2:2 pulldown" for the LCD screens and for the Plasma screens when Film Mode is turned on LG claims the new 2009 plasma screens are true 48HZ. It would be ideal if someone would review the 48HZ feature on the LG to verify if there is a visible flicker present or not present. There are some brands and models of flat screens that have a problem and produce a visible flicker at 48HZ since they are much more brighter then a film projector. The brighter the screen the higher the refresh rate needs to be to make sure a flicker is not present.

Sometimes LG makes mistakes when printing spec sheets and manuals. For example one year LG had a misprint in their instruction manual and a LG LCD 120HZ model had to be pulled from the list since it really was not 120HZ but a 60HZ only display. Any display on the list can be removed from the list at anytime due to errors made in the spec sheets, manuals or by professional reviews.

On page 112 of the LG 60PS80 manual it mentions 48fps.

http://www.lge.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-plasma-tv-60PS80.jsp#

On page 75 of the LG 60PS60 manual it mentions the film mode feature which is the LG's 48HZ mode.

http://www.lge.com/us/tv-audio-video...-tv-60PS60.jsp#



The following is an example of a CNET review from 11-2-2009 that has errors in the review:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-60ps80/4505-6482_7-33497898.html?tag=txt%3bpage

According to the LG manuals and the Home Theater Review on the LG PS80 series it will properly display 1080p/24 at 48HZ when Film Mode is turned on. But the CNET review does not mention the Film mode being turned on while testing the LG PS80 and they mention that the LG PS80 series cannot properly reproduce the cadence of film.

(Was the the Film Mode turned on when 1080p/24 tests were performed by CNET?)
Quote from CNET:
"However, notably missing is the capability to consistently reproduce the proper cadence 1080p/24 content, a capability found on the Panasonic V10 plasmas and all of the Samsung plasmas this year (as well as numerous 120Hz and 240Hz LCD screens). "

"The PS80 fell short of the competition in this arena. As we mentioned at the top it couldn't consistently pass our test for proper handling of 1080p/24 sources."

Another problem with the CNET review is that they claim that the LG PS80 series has no S-Video input. The funny thing is if one enlarges the picture in the CNET review they will clearly see that the PS80 has a S-Video input. Also the LG spec sheet and Home theater review mention the S-Video feature on the PS80 series.

(Yes the LG PS80 series does have a S-Video input in the rear)
Quote from CNET:
" The LG lacks S-Video inputs altogether"
" Our one connectivity complaint is its lack of S-Video inputs."

The new Home Theater review that just came out mentions that the Film Mode will output 1080p/24 at 48HZ on the LG. But they decided not to test that mode. More details to follow in the next post.


http://hometheatermag.com/flat-panel...dtv/index.html

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The LG 60PS80 compared to the Reference Pioneer PRO-141FD

(November 2009 Home Theater magazine review link)

When the discontinued 2008 72HZ reference Pioneer PRO-141FD was compared to the LG 60PS80 the Pioneer clearly was the better quality display. Home Theater Magazine mentioned that the LG 60PS80 will refresh 1080P/24 material at 48HZ when the film mode is engaged according to what they learned from LG. What is disappointing is that Home Theater magazine decided not to test the 48HZ mode at all since other brands of plasmas they reviewed produced a noticeable flicker at 48HZ. The Home Theater magazine reviewer should have turned on the "Film Mode" on the LG and applied a 1080p/24 signal for at least a few minutes to let consumers know if that display has a flicker problem. The recent Samsung SP-A900B review which is a 48HZ Front Projector, Home Theater reported that there was no visible flicker with that model. (http://hometheatermag.com/frontproje...dlp_projector/). It would have been ideal to know if the LG can also handle 48HZ without any visible flicker.

Here are some select quotes from the November Home Theater review link (All testing on the LG was done at 60HZ with 3:2 pulldown)

" According to LG, when the 60PS80 receives 1080p/24, it either converts it to 1080p/60 by adding 3:2 pulldown or repeats each frame and displays at 48 hertz (Film mode). In other plasmas we’ve reviewed, 48 Hz produced noticeable flicker, and we did not engage that mode here."

" The panel also emits a very slight buzz, but it was inaudible when I sat 10 feet away."

" We rarely have much to say about the audio systems in flat-panel sets, but the LG’s is one of the best I’ve heard."

" The LG 60PS80 is THX certified."

" the LG’s subjective color balance was extremely close to that of a calibrated Pioneer Elite KURO PRO-141FD plasma when I compared the two displays side by side with the same source material. The only difference was the LG’s subtly (and I do mean subtly) richer color."

" The LG’s black level was disappointing"

" The set’s weakness in absolute black level hampers it in darker scenes. When I perched the LG next to the Pioneer Elite KURO PRO-141FD and fed them the same Blu-ray source, there were striking differences on dark scenes with low inherent contrast, ranging from black to gray with few or no bright highlights. On these scenes, the LG’s picture had a foggy grayness compared with the Pioneer’s rich, deep blacks. The Pioneer’s black bars also nearly vanished on 2.35:1 movies in a darkened room, while the LG’s were always clearly visible."

" However, the Pioneer is likely to be unavailable by the time you read this, not to mention that it is (was) more than twice the price of the LG"

" The LG has outstanding resolution—it was arguably even a bit crisper looking than the Pioneer."

" My wish for a more accurate and stable color gamut and deeper blacks notwithstanding, the LG looks so good on most program material that I can’t come down on it too hard for its few technical short-comings. I enjoyed all the time I spent with it. You might like spending time with it as well."

" When I compared the LG with the Pioneer Elite KURO PRO-141FD, I had to use this Minimum Energy Saving setting to match the two sets’ brightness; the Pioneer’s peak white level hovers around 30 ft-L. "

"The full-on/full-off contrast ratio here is respectable but not exceptional for a modern flat-panel display. Apart from price, the latest LCD displays with local dimming are nipping at the heels of all plasmas (apart from the now discontinued Pioneer KUROs). One positive note here, for some viewers, is that the LG’s usable brightness is relatively high for a plasma, particularly one of this size."

Click here to read the complete LG 60PS80 review at the Home Theater website