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    Quote Originally Posted by blairy View Post
    Anybody know where I can buy the 96khz version of satchurated? I can only find the standard 48khz.
    As far as I know, there's only one version of the disc. The back of the packaging may be unclear because it only states:

    PCM Stereo 48k/24-bit
    Dolby TrueHD 7.1

    It's the TrueHD track that's 96k. The case should come with a sticker that says "Dolby TrueHD Advanced 96k Upsampling." These discs were pressed and the packaging designed before Dolby officially announced the upsampling process. Future releases should have some sort of banner or logo as part of the artwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post
    Really, you've done a blind listening test of identical material at both rates?

    Yeah, I didn't think so.
    Nope but for example I had some AVIs videoclips with MP3 44.1k and sounds worse than others with 48k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Cat View Post
    Nope but for example I had some AVIs videoclips with MP3 44.1k and sounds worse than others with 48k.
    My apple tastes better than your orange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post
    As far as I know, there's only one version of the disc. The back of the packaging may be unclear because it only states:

    PCM Stereo 48k/24-bit
    Dolby TrueHD 7.1

    It's the TrueHD track that's 96k. The case should come with a sticker that says "Dolby TrueHD Advanced 96k Upsampling." These discs were pressed and the packaging designed before Dolby officially announced the upsampling process. Future releases should have some sort of banner or logo as part of the artwork.

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    Thanks Josh. Will try and pick this one up.

    Describing me as a fan would probably be an exaggeration. Probably more accurate to say I enjoy his stuff.

    This disc however is one of the first 3D music discs I've come across with the bonus of 96 khz upsampling.

    As far as I know, Peter Gabriel's New Blood concert is the first 3D disc. Again, I like Gabriel's stuff but wouldn't call myself a fan. The New Blood disc however is sensational...sorry to go OT.

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    Picked up Satchurated.

    Packaging simply spells out two types of audio (stereo and 7.1) and makes no mention of 96khz. No sticker, no gold bar along bottom of front cover, no nothing. (This is in Australia.)

    When you get into the audio menu, again it tells you very little...PCM Stereo, 5.1 or 7.1 DolbyTrueHD. And that's it.

    Once you start playing and check out (using info on BD player) you realise it's 7.1 96khz (as I'd hoped for) and 5.1 lossy at 48khz. The stereo (and this is mentioned on tha packaging too) is 48k/24 bit.

    Tried all three mixes in an all too brief listening session. Listened to 5.1 matrixed to 7.1 and stereo as stereo and 7.1. Definitely not a scientific test nor a blind test. Just blairy's opinion for whatever it's worth. The 7.1 is a improvement over the 5.1; significant improvement - no: noticeable - yes and obviously this is mostly down to DD versus DD TrueHD. The stereo is also impressive although I preferred the 7.1. As I said not a scientific nor a blind test.

    Now before you race out and buy this a couple of points worthy of note.
    If you're a dyed in the wool Satriani fan you'll love it...otherwise it may simply be a novelty as your first 96khz disc. I don't mind Satriani and will get plenty of mileage out of this disc.
    If you don't have a 3D player and TV you won't be able to watch this disc. That's right, it's the first 3D disc I've come across that plays in 3D and nothing but 3D (OK the extras play in 2D but you know what I'm trying to say). And the only clue that it's 3D is the tiny Bluray 3D logo on the back cover.
    The aspect ratio is a tad strange too. I get black bars on either side of the 16:9 screen about an inch wide. Strange for a new release in 3D.
    The 3D works well and is not done as a gimmick, it simply adds depth (although I haven't watched this right through - might be some gimmicks in there). I'm impressed with what I've seen so far and this is a long way from my first 3D movie.

    The audio quality is great, but I don't see too many people pulling this one out for demo purposes unless they're a fan of Satriani.

    Upshot, is 96khz worth it. Unless someone decides to put a premium on 96khz discs (in terms of price) then I'll say it's worth it, definitely. Of course what's the bet we'll see either a premium for 96khz or a whole new reason for double, triple and even quadruple dipping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Cat View Post
    josh we can hear the diference between 44.1k vs 48k, a 96k movie just will sounds supergood.
    I could conceive there will be a very small difference between a 44.1khz and an upscaled 96khz signal. My external DAC upscales 44.1Khz to 192khz and I am powering the DAC from a reference power supply. The source is also powered using a reference supply.

    There still isnt that big a difference upscaling 44.1khz to 192khz. I have heard far better from a standard DAC that kept the audio in it's native sample rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Cat View Post
    Nope but for example I had some AVIs videoclips with MP3 44.1k and sounds worse than others with 48k.
    MP3 compression is the problem there, not the sample rate.
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    A good MP3 192 its awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Cat View Post
    A good MP3 192 its awesome.
    Converting a CD to MP3 is the audio equivilent of commiting rape.

    WAV Lossless is the format of choice for anyone serious about audio. They may take up a lot more memory, but they will sound good on both portable and high end equipment.
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    A good MP3 sounds good, just it need turn up high the volume than an AC3 or a DTS, but hell I can heard anything from the screen too.
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    in a couple of month, when the 96k become a standard and see the diference you are gonna said shit Silver cat was right and I am gonna tell you I TOLD YOU GUYS.
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    You can't even tell the difference between a low bit-rate MP3 and lossless audio, yet you believe you can tell the difference between 48k and 96k sampling, which is vastly less audible? To put it as politely as I possibly can, you are completely delusional, you have no idea what you're talking about, and nothing you write makes the slightest bit of sense.

    Please, just stop now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post
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    Yes I can, a MP3 just sounds FLAT, with a lot of absence of BASS and LFE, but heck if you turn up the volume higher than when u watch an AC3 or a DTS u hear everything from ur frontal speakers and the bass&LFE sounds a little better.

    Do it, watch one of ur movies just using ur forntal speakers, now download it that same movie with MP3 and hear it with a hiigher volume and u will understand what a heck i am talkin about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Cat View Post
    Yes I can, a MP3 just sounds FLAT, with a lot of absence of BASS and LFE, but heck if you turn up the volume higher than when u watch an AC3 or a DTS u hear everything from ur frontal speakers and the bass&LFE sounds a little better.

    Do it, watch one of ur movies just using ur forntal speakers, now download it that same movie with MP3 and hear it with a hiigher volume and u will understand what a heck i am talkin about.
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